I use non-antiperspirant deodorant. I got tired of the aluminum in antiperspirant staining my shirts and clumping up, then I learned that the aluminum works by being an irritant that causes an allergic swelling that blocks your sweat glands. That all sounds pretty gross to me. I might re-apply deodorant during the day if I've been sweating, or put on some fresh clothes or even take a light shower.
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aluminum works by being an irritant that causes an allergic swelling
That's not how it works though
Regular deodorant works just as well as antiperspirant for stopping scent, and if you don't sweat all that much, there is relatively little difference.
This is what I do. I don’t like the ingredients that make up antiperspirants so I stick with not stinking.
I generally don’t sweat too badly either, which helps.
How do you know they all weren't wearing it?
There are a lot of people who do wear it but continue to smell because of underlying medical conditions. For example, fruity smelling body odor can indicate diabetes. People with a rare genetic condition called Trimethylaminuria can smell strongly of fish. It all depends on what bacteria (which outnumber your own body cells by 10 to 1 even though they are only 2% of your body mass) and what balance of enzymes you may or may not have.
Reducing perspiration can and often does help, concealing the odor with different ones can help, but sometimes people's bodies just aren't right for whatever mass produced product they have bought. Sometimes that can be fixed with medication. Sometimes it can't.
Neither. I just don't smell. Confirmed by partners over the years. As it turns out, it's genetic. One perk of being Korean I suppose.
The non-functional ABCC11 allele is predominant among East Asians (80–95%), but very low among European and African populations (0–3%).[6] Most of the world's population has the gene that codes for the wet-type earwax and average body odor; however, East Asians are more likely to inherit the allele associated with the dry-type earwax and a reduction in body odor.[6][32][34] The reduction in body odor may be due to adaptation to colder climates by their ancient Northeast Asian ancestors.[32] Wiki: Body Odor (Genes affecting body odor section)
Cool. My smelllessness has a name. I am european though, but the description fits. I guess I won the generic lottery
So here is what I've noticed.
The acceptance of sweat BO is partly a cultural thing. At my workplace we have people from all over the world, and there are certain parts of the world where it is clearly uncommon to wear deoderant. Both men and women, although I have noticed it far more with men. I guess if everyone had natural BO, it wouldn't seem so unusual.
This is not to be confused with uncleanliness, I'm sure these people shower, the scent is purely one of sweat from hard physical labor. It is never better or worse, but always the same and in fact, you can identify people by their particular unique scent.
Sometimes I'm a bit disturbed by strong manly BO because they are too... arousing. Specially in places like at work where feeling arousal is the last thing I want.
It's not just cultural in terms of nations it's also dependent on the type of work. You're going to be critical of a taxi driver stinking of BO when he sits in an air conditioned cab all day, but not somebody doing physical labour in the open air
The primary cultures that don't use deodorant and smell like a wet ox, in order:
- Magic the Gathering tournament players.
- Board game café customers.
- Gamescom attendants.
Some people don't sweat that much. For example, I have to use antiperspirant to avoid body odor but my wife don't need to use one and I can't smell odor.
This is probably related to this genetic trait. I have wet earwax and body odor, while my wife has dry earwax and no body odor.
Quote from the article:
In general people with the non-functioning ABCC11 variant don’t need to wear deodorant.
Deodorant user here. I smell great because of it. I didn't like antiperspirant because I also found I smelt worse because of it and it never really stopped the sweat very well anyways.
Something you may not factor in though is people expire at different rates. Also, some people smell worse than others regardless of expiration time and some perspire more.
As many others have said, the choice is not between antiperspirant and nothing. I use deodorant but no antiperspirant.
Do you mean deodorant? I don't use antiperspirant because it actually makes me sweat more in my experience. I'm not alone on this either.
I'm allergic to aluminum-based antiperspirants, and I didn't know there was another kind for a long time, so I've always just used deodorant. It has never been a problem for me.
I learned something about people when I was married to this certain guy for a while. his armpits never smelled. But his feet did.
I've always been the opposite. My feet never produce odor. But my armpits do.
conclusion. Not everybody needs deodorant on their armpits.
Often antiperspirants create a cycle of dependency. They kill off some of the benign bacteria and favour the ones that produce strong body odour, so if you stop using them you stink.
I grew up in a region where no-one used antiperspirant or deodorant. Nobody smelt bad. People have a smell, but its not strong.
When I moved to the city and smelt post-basketball teenage BO, it was so bad.
I dont use antipersperant. I have asked many people if I smell, all agree I dont.
Deodorant /= Antiperspirant.
I sweat like a hog due to having a chunk of my work life being physical labor and being too poor to keep the house air conditioned at 45F when its 110F outside. So antiperspirant would just paralyze my armpit glands but nowhere else.
Also, I got tired of spending money on deodorant and having more plastic to throw away and just started making a 50/50 (ish) mix of coconut oil and baking soda and just smearing some on my sweaty parts and it does okay at covering my stink.
Whether I use deodorant or not.. I notice that my smell changes when I'm around people (they tend to make me a touch anxious), some fabrics, and clothes that fit really tightly under my armpits. Also, I've noticed a HUGE difference in pit smell between full underarm bush and shaved.
I've never once noticed someone's body odor. On the other hand, some who just finished showering using a fruity shampoo reeks imo. Ditto for people who use perfume or cologne. And those often can also cause allergies for many people...
Yep, I have some sensitivity to fragrances and perfumes and unfortunately, people who use standard shampoo, conditioner, deodorant, laundry soap and dryer sheets smell horrible to me, sometimes from 5 feet away or just being in the same room. Some shampoo is so strong that I can smell it just from them having been in the same room 3 minutes ago. It’s unfortunate that sometimes, it’s people who think they’re being civilized and responsible, while in fact their scented stuff is causing problems that won’t exist otherwise. It’s actually harder to find products that don’t do this, though, as the standard American mainstream brand ones are all awful as far as fragrances go (Pantene, pert, suave, Gain, Tide, Bounce, Snuggle etc).
I've never once noticed someone's body odor
You are truly fortunate xD
I work in a warehouse and omg the things I have smelled. The worst is when the person working in front of me has strong BO and a fan is blowing it into my face all day.
Apparently antiperspirant is not that good for you so I did quit using it for a year or so after the pandemic so I was at home anyways. I would use more natural deodorant without aluminum or anything bad but maaaaaaaaaan my pits stunk and washing with soap didn't even eliminate it. After I started using it again because I couldn't even stand my own BO it disappeared immediately. I don't always shower every day and don't put it on except after showering and drying off and the smell after 2 days without a shower is much more pleasant than half an hour after showering during the time period I wasn't using it. Why that is, idk. You wouldn't think it would be that bad especially if I was showering. I would even try stuff like vinegar on my pits but it didn't help.
These posts always make me question myself because I've basically never worn deodorant or antiperspirant.
I've had jobs where you can't be stinky(sales,office jobs, at a hospital), and nobody has ever said anything. I've lived with partners for 16 years, none have ever complained about my smell(besides times when anyone would smell, like after a long run on a hot day).
I'm guessing I just have lucky personal body chemistry, but I'm sure there will be some people telling themselves I'm just smelly and don't know it.
Some people genetically just don't smell bad when they sweat
My nose/sinus/throat is all very sensitive to perfumes and aerosols these days, and even if it's not strong enough to close my throat up and choke me, it still tends to make me feel sick. I've not used any spray and rarely any smelly stuff for over a decade.
Most soaps and some shower gels are fine though, so there's no problem with starting a day "clean".
On the morning train, you can normally smell people who use deodorant instead of washing. It's quite hard to describe - air freshener in a festival toilet? Artificial sweeteners on a stilton cheese? Anyway, if their perfume isn't strong enough to physically harm me, I don't care.
I used spray deodorants as a teenager, and unscented roll-ons for many years after - but after stopping using it, I found, like the couple you mentioned, that I didn't sweat as much, and the sweat that was there didn't smell as bad. Oddly enough, anecdotal evidence suggests my natural smell increased my attractiveness quite significantly. Of course, all of these may have just been coincidental factor of age/hormones/circumstances etc though.
I was a bit paranoid for some years, and always asked/checked with trusted people "do I smell?". I found I can smell myself when I do.
My work is sometimes quite physically demanding, so during the ~two months a year when it's potentially warm (Northern UK), you can get a bit sweaty - but so is everyone else. If you really feel the need, a quick armpit wash in a sink at lunchtime, or a "festival shower" with a wet-wipe would sort that out.
Anyway, so the rough answer is "There is less body odour. You get used to what's there. Most of it smells quite pleasant, sometimes even to the extent of it being animalistically magnetically attractive"
I definitely have BO, but I can't smell my own, typically. however, I also just don't find the smell of sweat/BO particularly offensive.
I've started using not an antiperspirant, but a substance that acts like a deodorant, because my partner is VERY sensitive to smells and mine apparently sets her off pretty badly.
I'm honestly surprised by the amount of gross people here. It doesn't matter if you asked some people about your smell. You don't use deodorant and go about your day, you smell. It is as simple as that. Sure, right after a shower of when lying on the couch the whole day you might be fine. But as soon as you start moving, you smell.
Let the down-votes come :)
Fun fact, there's around 2% of people that don't produce smell when they sweat. The smell comes from bacteria that eat a certain chemical in sweat, and the folks don't produce it, i.e. no bacteria or smell.
To be honest, I think this can also depend a lot on the climate that you’re from. In cold and dry climates you don’t necessarily get as smelly. When I moved to a hot and humid place it was like “okay, showers are a multiple times a day thing here, I guess.” Even when staying inside and loafing about in air conditioning it was noticeably worse. There’s a number of factors that change from person to person too… some people are greasier, some people are stinkier. You should probably shower and deodorant up whenever you’re going to leave the house and be near other people as a rule of thumb, but I think a fair number of people don’t shower every day and can get by okay.
In cold and dry climates you don’t necessarily get as smelly
This 100%, for me at least
I'm used to a drier climate. When I've visited some places that are more humid, I've been surprised how much more I can smell everything. Every person. Every place. Around corners. What's on the ground. Everything.
I do wear a scented antiperspirant because I like how it smells, it doesn't react badly with me and I don't wear a lot of other scents. But yeah, some places require more than that even.
Yeah I went without deodorant for a few weeks while I healed from a rash caused by another deodorant (usually aluminum fucks with me, but this one didn't have aluminum, don't know why I reacted so badly to it). I could smell my own stink when I raised my arms.
But yeah, people who just go "natural" don't realize how much body odor they carry. I've met many people over the years who just stink to high hell, but don't realize or don't care how much they smell.
Artificial scents make me break out, dry my skin out (in a bad way), gives me headaches, cause rashes, and/or cause excessive itching. Nickle, which is in many deodorants, causes rashes and chemical burns, literally had my neck bleed from a shit nickle necklace. Most deodorants will literally hurt me. Sure there are more "natural" ones, but they always feel gross or smell gross.
Sorry if it bothers you, but I'd rather not bleed from my arm pits.
Also people that use axe spray in small spaces, e.g. elevators, can get fucked.
Anti-perspirant makes the rest of my body sweat a lot more as suddenly I can’t just use my pits to cool my body.
Unless it is a very hot day you don't really notice it. I sometimes put it on when I feel like I might sweat throughout the day but it isn't really necessary and no one really cares.
Antiperspirant is one thing. Very few people use one without a fragrance though. I would rather smell basically any normal body odor over awful perfume crap, personally.
I hate my smell but also overheat very easily, so uh... I just kinda have to live with it. I apologise a lot.
There is a large portion of the gay male community that prefers the smell of a man rather than the smells caused by those products. As a result I will only wear natural antiperspirants or deodorants which wash off easily and only when I need to (going into the office days).
I found that I don't smell nearly as bad as I used to (verified by outside opinions) when using "normal" antiperspirants. They mess up your body's natural scents and it takes a while before things return to normal even with daily washing.
Plus they're inedible...