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Special counsel Jack Smith took a meeting with attorneys representing former President Donald Trump earlier this year and reportedly sat in stone-cold silence while they pleaded with him not to indict their client.

Politico reports that ABC News reporter Jonathan Karl's new book on Trump's post-presidential life claims that Trump lawyers Trump attorneys Todd Blanche and John Lauro met with Smith's team over the summer and gave them a list of reasons why charging Trump with crimes related to his efforts to illegally remain in power would be a mistake.

According to Karl, Smith sat through through the presentation without saying a word.

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[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 83 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm imagining him staring down the clownfucks while taking bites of his subway sandwich the way Jules looks at Brad as he empties his tasty beverage.

[–] DABDA@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nice visual! Minor correction for accuracy though, it's *Brett

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For nearly 30 years I've thought it was Brad because the "Check out the big brain on Br.." sounds very much like "Brad" and I clearly ignored every other instance of his name. MY LIFE IS A LIE

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] DABDA@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

The silent pouting expression after the "I don't remember asking you..." line was great. Samuel L. Jackson has such a distinct and biting voice. I really hope they've sampled and preserved it for posterity and future use (non-exploitatively of course). Even if they recast the role he'll always be the voice of Principal Firebush to me.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Subway? Naw. Jack smith has standards

I’m going to imagine a made-at-home Dagwood’s-esque beauty.

That, or he has an induction burner and he pan seared a giant porterhouse. Maybe fry off some country potatoes and asparagus.

[–] insomniac@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

It’s reference to a weird news article a while back about him being seen getting subway for lunch

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I am going with organic no added sugars peanut butter on whole wheat. His wife is concerned about the results of his last checkup and according to Jack there is only one person on earth you should be afraid of, Mrs. Smith.

So he sits there silently eating his nutritious lunch dreaming of a nice fried egg sandwich.

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Well, Jules didn't really choose what was 'served'.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 59 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd love to see this list of "reasons" published. What do they think they are? Way above the law, or what?

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Reason 1: He didn't do anything!
Reason 2: It wasn't that bad!
Reason 3: You're making such a big deal about it!
Reason 4: It wasn't his fault!
Reason 5: He didn't mean it!
Reason 6: You all deserved it!

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the narcissist's legal defense

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

If you've paid attention to the civil trial, this is the exact defense they're using.

[–] bmcgonag@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People really need to realize, Trump is insane. He has never heard anyone tell him he was wrong, or not good enough, or not smart enough, or it was his fault. Now as a "grown man" he believes he can do no wrong. He was buddies with North Korea and Russia because he wants to know how they maintain their power and grip over this countries.

I'm scared to death that not enough peole are taking seriously that he could win again. I hope at least 1 felony will be set as guilty for him, and disqualify him, but then you've got the rest of the herd of nut-jobs that follow him right behind him.

[–] bluemellophone@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A felony wouldn’t disqualify him.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It actually would be really fucked up if it could as most minorities wouldn't be able to hold elected office, and those felonies are often extremely arbitrary ones put in place by racist jurisdictions with the explicit purpose of denying minorities their right to vote.

The fact that you can lose respect for any of your constitutional rights as a consequence of a court proceeding should terrify everyone.

There are better ways to deal with fascists.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

you really think that most minorities are felons?

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[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, this just sounds like he was being polite. Who would talk through someone's presentation?

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Usually something like this would be a bit of a back and forth. But (supposedly) they said nothing, asked no questions, and then just said bye to them when they were done, that indicates a lot more than just being polite.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

I had a manager who would sit in silence during every negotiation waiting for the tension to break the other person.

I knew that trick before the interview. That was a very awkward several minutes while we just sat looking at each other. He broke the silence and I got the job on the interview.

Yeah he was a weird guy.

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I think they were joking...

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

It's entirely possible, I have to admit I could have totally missed it. Lol

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would, after all their begging and pleading, would hold out my hand and change it to a thumbs down, like the Romans did in the Colosseum.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thumbs up for execution, thumbs down to spare the gladiators life, from what I've been told.

[–] Azhad@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Thumbs down to execute, thumbs closed in the hand for mercy.

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I also read the story linked about the nut job that attacked Paul Pelosi as he was waiting to take out his wife Nancy. As much as I would love to think these cases are the exception, they aren't based on the numbers alone.

If I was deranged like this, I would be upset Mr Drink Bleach didn't bail him and others from the Jan 6th event out of jail. Perhaps they are thinking if he returns, then he will do the right thing for their sacrifices?

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They learn nothing. The qanon shaman did time, and was called an antifa false flag by his peers. He's trying to run for office now, trying to get the votes of the same people who threw him under the bus the second his story was inconvenient

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Mister shaman realizes there is money in them thar morons.

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Their presentation was basically The Nightman Cometh.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They were defeated by friendship and karate?

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

When they finally finished, Jack Smith was like "really? No I won't let this slide." and he walked out.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is a really badass way to say he had a meeting where he didn't say anything.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I really hate news headlines these days. Feels like they're written for morons with no attention span.

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

I do this in nearly every meeting. FUCK YEAH.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Some times what you don't say speaks volumes.

[–] Portbane@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Do you guys think there is still a chance that Trump gets elected again?

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't you? If anyone doubts he has a chance, you're not scared enough.

[–] Portbane@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit, now you really scared me 😳

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

I'm fucking terrified we're on our way to the Idiocracy 4th Reich.

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He's been avoiding the debates. His rallies are basically a greatest hits from 2016, even though he was president already and could have fixed those things. he's now using dictator language to dehumanize the opposition so his thugs will be more likely to use violence. All this and he's leading the Republican race. He'll run from prison because the Republicans are purely for power now and clearly won't relinquish it next time.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives have always grasped for power in this country. Do you think the Civil War was about states rights?

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

They've been maneuvering, bribing, and putting cronies in places of power for 70 years. They learned from the Civil War that you can't just fight openly. They used the Civil rights movement to bolster support. Obama was also used to bolster some more.

They own the Supreme Court, the governorship, they're cementing the house through gerrymandering, the senate favors Republicans along with the electoral college.

The state can't defend itself when you are the state. Sherman was right, we should have kept on burning.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago

Yes, it's still america

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

People asked similar questions in 2016. Right up to election day.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Any chance at all? Maybe. But the obvious thing I don't see many comments about is that he cannot gain supporters, only lose them.

[–] tym@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

If the results of the trials done disqualify him, then yes this is his beer hall putsch. We're about to get a dictator if we don't have a blue army voting in droves.

We should all be very afraid.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Caged rats on a sinking ship. Do them a favour and throw the cage in the water.

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