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[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 79 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (28 children)

This is completely stupid. If Hamas are hiding in hospitals then surely there's a better fucking way to target them than trying to blow the whole fucking place up. One way would be to send a strike team, after all Israel and Mossad are "famous" for hunting terrorists down after the Munich bombing at the Olympics. Yet the same country can only now resort to cutting off infrastructure and bombing refugee camps, ambulances, schools and hospitals plus which is killing aid workers and drs.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don’t know how strike teams work and such but I doubt it’s as easy as in Call of Duty.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (7 children)

OP's a child who's never dealt with violence, war or destroyed infrastructure.

My ex-FIL was a decorated Army vet (Iraq, 2x Bronze Stars), Mississippi National Guard. FFS, those men couldn't get into their own cities after Hurricane Katrina, in peacetime. They cut fucking houses in half and pushed them aside to open the roads.

Send in a strike team?! To a civilian hospital in a war zone?! That's a solid plan to get your men killed on the incursion, OR, get a bunch of civilians killed and THEN lose all your men.

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[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah, for starters your own people are going to get killed.

It would probably have fewer casualties on the enemy side however since some of them might actually live. However, Israel's goal is not to allow Hamas members to survive.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That would only make sense if the goal wasn't revenge and ethnic cleansing.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (16 children)

This is not as easy as you think. You have to get your team to the target, through terrorists hiding among civilians, through IDE’s that are hidden along the way, through civilians that do not like you. And if you miraculously survive this march without heavy casualties the Hamas are already gone and hide somewhere else…not to forget the civilian casualties that would happen on the way…

[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

jUst sEnd A sTriKe tEam lmao

[–] khalic@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Idiots thought modern warfare was a documentary

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Exactly! It surely can't be harder to fight 30,000 embedded terrorists than 8 scattered terrorists in hiding.

I think Israel should give them supplies to continue operation until they can be evacuated. And also Israel should give them notice of evacuation weeks in advance so they can prepare. And Israel should be expected to provide alternate medical care.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is a war, so you are basically talking about an urban assault involving thousands of IDF infantry kicking doors down house to house and shooting anyone who shoots at them.

The US did that in Fallujah, and it's pretty gnarly. US had 500 casualties IIRC. The US also told all the residents to evacuate Fallujah before the operation went down.

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[–] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 months ago

The irony of hiding in a hospital when you literally cause war.

Doesn't it make more sense to argue that the person dropping bombs just doesn't want to admit they missed the target and fucked thousands of people because they're shit at their job? If you were fighting an alien or hunting a foreign agent, and you screwed up and accidentally shot your own family down in flames, you'd probably be rather embarrassed, I sure would be too haha

But hey it's alright nobody will judge even if they knew because the truth is that some jobs suck and just get glamorised on the news and in the media precisely because even the very few who make the cut can still be considered competent

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[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I really thought this was The Onion.

[–] SattaRIP@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago
[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Despite it being a good Reuters article, people aren't even reading the second half of the damn title lol.

Edit: Who am I kidding? We know they are but they're going to ignore it for a reason lol.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

US Cops shout "stop resisting" as they beat their victims, then later 'deplore' that they 'brought it on themselves' "Hamas should stop resisting" oh the humanity

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 16 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Hamas is not a victim in any sense of the word.

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[–] MuuuaadDib@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Does anyone have any evidence that this was actually taking place? It seems like the most moronic and easy excuse to get away with war crimes. Hey did you just blow up that school?? Yes....but umm....Hamas was there! No wait... it was their rocket that did it...yeah wasn't us it was them!

Why does everyone think Israel a notorious nation for spying and being shitty is 100% honest in their findings?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

The US has confirmed it and presumably the EU

Both were skeptical of Israel’s video showing rockets being fired from the hospital due to their track record

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


BRUSSELS, Nov 12 (Reuters) - The European Union on Sunday condemned Hamas for using "hospitals and civilians as human shields" in Gaza, while also urging Israel to show "maximum restraint" to protect civilians.

Hospitals in the north of the Palestinian enclave are blockaded by Israeli forces and barely able to care for those inside, according to medical staff.

"The EU condemns the use of hospitals and civilians as human shields by Hamas," European Union foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said in a statement issued on behalf of the 27-nation bloc.

At the same time, he urged Israel to exercise maximum restraint, stressing the obligation under international humanitarian law to protect hospitals, medical supplies and civilians inside hospitals.

"These hostilities are severely impacting hospitals and taking a horrific toll on civilians and medical staff," Borrell warned.

"In this context, we urge Israel to exercise maximum restraint to ensure the protection of civilians."


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