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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm guessing it won't stop with undocumented people. Not when there are homeless. And the LGBT+. And non-Christians. And anyone who isn't white.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 40 points 1 year ago

And anyone who opposes the regime. And anyone who maybe opposes the regime. And anyone who never opposed the regime but got denounced. And so on and so forth. History provides plenty of examples.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

No, you're quite right. Once the camps are built, anyone can be thrown in -- and will be. So the point is to get them built under any pretext, and then normalized.

Anyone wondering about why this country needs an outsize 85-acre, $90 million, military-style training camp for police officers that is equipped with all the latest in training and arms, this is why. You don't need paramilitary cops in a democratic society -- but they're a must-have in an autocracy.

This has been in the works for years, long before Trump. There have always been a handful of the ultra rich who want to turn the entire country into the company store. It's finally coming together, and this is how it's done.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Let's not forget we have DNA testing this time around so better hope you don't have "one drop" of degenerate blood.

[–] joker125@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's everyone who questions anything, including his brain dead supporters.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Don't forget us Jews. Whenever some wannabe dictator starts talking about the vermin in society, they inevitably wind up attacking Jews.

Oh, and they'll eventually attack Christians as well. They'll decide who is and who isn't Christian enough. Are you Catholic? Sorry, that's not the right form of Christianity. You're Baptist but don't go to church every week? Into the camp you go. You go every week, but your pastor spoke out against Trump? Into the camp for you!

[–] HWK_290@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The depressing thing is, you will find a good number of people that will be directly affected by this and who will still vote for Trump, because something something Biden's age.....

[–] capital@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Right now it’s all the rage to threaten not voting for Biden because of his handling of the Israel/Hamas conflict.

Idk guys… I wouldn’t recommend it.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No doubt some of that is being pushed by people who want Trump to win. I hate feeling like I don’t have a choice, but that’s kind of where we’re at now: an unhinged, legally cornered, autocratic Trump who is already threatening to turn America into a Christo-fascist dictatorship who will lock up his political enemies & immigrants, and will most likely push for out & out genocide in Palestine, OR an elderly Joe Biden, who has been the only semi-moderating force on Israel thus far (obviously he hasn’t gone far enough and have mostly given faint disapproval), but has otherwise been doing an ok-ish job the past few years (despite what the media says). It’s a shitty choice, but IMO too important to throw my vote away over a single issue.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago

If you mention Biden being elderly without meaning Trump is basically the same age, or call Biden senile without mentioning that Trump is clearly far worse in that regard, you're carrying water for Trump.

[–] brothershamus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Right now it’s all the rage to threaten not voting for Biden because of his handling of the Israel/Hamas conflict.

So I keep reading on the interwebs.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

And the infuriating thing is Trump is only three years younger than Biden!

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Buttery males!

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Don't forget her emails too...

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I think Biden is just barely better than a literal carrot and he's still a better choice. It could be a Weekend at Biden's situation and he's still probably better.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“This vermin must be destroyed. The Jews are our sworn enemies, and at the end of this year there will not be a Jew left in Germany.” — Hitler, 1939

“We will root out the Communists, Marxists … and Radical Left Thugs that live like vermin within … our country.” — Trump, yesterday

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

You know, I never really considered the vital nature of the second ammendment until I read that. I won't own weapons personally, and I really dislike the idea of any weapon small enough to be concealed or easily used for self injury.

But I know plenty of "radical left" who own firearms, and I'm willing to bet that Trumps version of gestapo will have a very different outcome if he tries it.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 year ago

For those who believe in reincarnation, Trump was born the year after Hitler died.

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

He even has a cool new anagram ready: MANGA

[–] grue@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article title misspelled "pogroms" and "concentration camps."

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And they'll give it some name like "Project 9066" and think they're so clever while the rest of us scream to our uneducated countrymen that yes, they can be both that evil and that obvious.

I wouldn't be surprised if he mentions gas chambers by year's end.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bet you he gets the Christianity vote again

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Christianity has always been an evil religion.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

This country seemingly goes more and more nuts by the day. How embarrassing.

[–] frustratedphagocytosis@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who's gonna build and maintain these camps? Have you seen the state of white people lately? We couldn't even get enough non-immigrant labor for food, let alone concentration camps. Plus NIMBY already hits hard on facilities that house undesirable populations, you think conservatives want to dedicate land near their own homes for immigrants? They're already busing and flying them away.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

All they need to build well is the walls, and all they need to maintain is the locks.

The quality is intentional. They intend to let them die as an example.

E: lot of trump supporters upset to have their plans highlighted, I see

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

They'd use National Guard.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You know..... he's gonna piss off the farmers who rely on cheap (practically slave) labor form immigrants.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought he already did that when they fucked up H1Bs.

Problem is those people are very dumb and will vote for him again even if it hurts them personally.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Oh he did.

he's gonna do it again.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Why they are getting money not to grow

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Hey everyone knows the US relationship with internment camps...they're for em!

[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

you've all seen Children of Men right?

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

best laid plans of mice and men often go awry. his aren't well laid

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

They're barely plans.

[–] Ibex0@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He says this stuff like he wasn't already president. He had 4 years and didn't deport any more annually than Obama.

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

He had 4 years and didn't deport any more annually than Obama.

I like how this statement makes both of them look bad.