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Ohio voters just took firm positions on abortion and reproductive rights and adult-use recreational marijuana Tuesday, but gerrymandered Ohio lawmakers are already planning to flout, ignore, challenge, and abuse the voters’ wishes. This is what gerrymandering brings. This is why it’s a fundamental poison in the lifeblood of our republic.

Mere hours after Ohio voters passed the Issue 1 reproductive rights amendment with 56.62%, according to unofficial results, and the Issue 2 recreational marijuana law with 57% (both getting nearly 2.2 million votes), Ohio Republican legislative leaders signaled they would not respect the will of the people.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 98 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Maybe this way the people learn that Republicans cannot be trusted with democratic decisions.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 64 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe this way the people learn that Republicans cannot be trusted.

FTFY.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 20 points 7 months ago

When I lived in Arizona, I tried my best to inform people EVERY TIME the state Republicans fought back against voter initiatives (which was nearly every time).

They don't care. Arizonans even voted recently to make voter initiatives harder to pass

https://www.azcentral.com/elections/results/2022-11-08/state/arizona/

But at least they (barely) voted against the other bill Republicans put on the ballot: That their government be allowed to alter passed voter initiatives.

Fuck Republicans

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago

Expecting republican voters to learn… I admire your optimism.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe this way the people learn

Hey, hope springs eternal, but if we look at past experience and try to guess at what the future will hold...

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[–] athos77@kbin.social 85 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Like when the people of Florida clearly voted to restore voting rights to people who completed their time in the justice system, and Florida Republicans just said Nah. Fuck the Republicans.

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 50 points 7 months ago

Or when Utah voted to legalize Marijuana (against the Mormon Church's wishes) and the Utah Republicans just said Nah.

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 63 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago (29 children)

Only if we let them. We all gotta vote or they'll fascism all over the place.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’m getting genuinely nervous that voting is not going to stop this one. With them lying and switching parties after being voted in, to the judicial system being completely corrupt and stacked, our window is closing fast. It needs to be legal to punch fascist in the face. Intolerance cannot be tolerated.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

They want you to feel like it's inevitable that they'll win. It isn't!

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Isn't this literally a post about how people voted and its going to be ignored anyway?

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't stop at voting. Volunteer to encourage others to vote. Get more involved in local politics. Run for local office.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I don't not have the time to run but I know my city council woman and I've had her sign in my yard twice now. As well as the school board members. They all won reelection this past Tuesday too. I've been thinking about becoming a precinct captain but I'm already kind of stretched thin.

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[–] wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz 57 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I genuinely don't understand how a human could see what they do and think "oh yeah these guys are good, fuck those assholes that care about basic human rights"

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For some if it "owns the libs" it's good. Doesn't matter if it erodes democracy or not.

[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 31 points 7 months ago

It's this. Many Republicans lack the ability of empathy for other people- especially for people different than them. They can not see things from both sides. They may wonder what happen to democracy when it is gone and be dumfounded when it is their rights being taken away.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Maybe they don't see people unlike them as fully human.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 55 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Ohio Republican legislative leaders signaled they would not respect the will of the people.

Have they ever?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

When the people voted for them, sure

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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Republicans want to rule, not represent

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or when Florida passed an anti gerrymandering law and the governor just ignored the state Congress and resubmitted the illegal maps

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh did Florida also do it? Ohio’s illegal maps were struck down but they just sent the same ones until time ran out

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 7 points 7 months ago

Yep, for a while now actually. DeSantis just kind of... Ignored the map drawn according to the law and resubmitted the old one. And the sunshine law that requires everything that passes over a public officials desk to be made public, including meeting records and emails

I thought calling Republicans fascist was a little hyperbolic, or at least premature... But then I saw DeSantis blatantly ignore the law, fire elected officials for dutifully fulfilling campaign promises (specifically, by adopting a rehabilitation first stance on crime, which was showing great results), form an extra legal panel to push "anti woke" policies in schools, and gave police the right to take children they suspect might be brought out of state for gender affirming care (obviously not cis gender affirming care like prosthetic boots for men insecure about their height while running for president). Then there's the book burnings, unconstituional laws, attempting to impose government censorship on Disney, and of course multiple fun flavors of voter suppression

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They never really stopped. Before this was their previous attempt, the August election's Issue 1 in which they tried to suppress voter initiatives to amend the Constitution. Anybody that supports Republicans at this point is supporting fascism. There's not really "the lesser of two evils" in most elections now, it's the Evil party that is doing just about everything they can against America & the public, and then there's everyone else.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

It's so important to be registered to vote and to vote in presidential, midterm, and off year elections. It's important to vote at the national, state, and local levels.

[–] Plavatos@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Fun fact, that special election in August broke their own rules as signed in HB 458. Aug special elections were removed unless to draw resolutions on fiscal emergencies (see sec 3501.022-A).

[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If they want to attack me, do it directly, fucking cowards. Let's see who's shaky ass early-stages-of-dementia hands are more accurate.

It's an American tradition, right?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I just want the rest of the country to understand how little of a say we have in our government in Ohio. They’re comfortable doing this with these margins because of how gerrymandered we are. Illegally so, but they just kept submitting the same map until the timer ran out

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Disenfranchise voters with this one weird trick!

[–] NataliePortland@lemmy.ca 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I hope they try! The GOPs hard stance on this just keeps helping Dems at every turn. They’re digging their own graves

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

It's my hope that stories like this will motivate people to just vote them out.

[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I lean right on most things, but do support both of these measures. I also support removing lawmakers that do not adhere to the will of the people they were elected to represent. Politicians need to be reminded they work for US, and need to be reminded they should fear the voting public.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

There's a thirsty tree in Ohio.

[–] kaibae@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like it’s past time for that general strike

[–] Kentifer@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Just as soon as someone does all of the necessary planning. Strikes go on for a long time. There needs to be infrastructure in place for helping people meet their needs during a strike. That's one thing that unions are able to help with. Untill that infrastructure is in place, a general strike will never succeed because people will need money to food, medication, sanitary products, etc.

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[–] r_se_random@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

As someone not from US, and generally interested in the specifics of gerrymandering, can someone share a link for the extent of gerrymandering in Ohio.

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