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The House passed a GOP-led resolution on Tuesday to censure Rep. Rashida Tlaib over comments critical of Israel and in support of Palestinians amid Israel’s war against Hamas.

The move amounts to a rare and significant rebuke of the Michigan Democrat, who is the first Palestinian-American woman to serve in Congress. The vote was 234 to 188 with four Republicans voting against and 22 Democrats voting in support of the censure resolution.

The resolution, which was introduced by Georgia GOP Rep. Rich McCormick, advanced earlier in the day after a Democratic-led effort to block the measure failed.

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[–] money_loo@lemmy.world 111 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The congresswoman included a link to a longer statement in which she went on to say, “I cannot uncritically accept Israel’s denials of responsibility as fact,” and said, “Both the Israeli and United States governments have long, documented histories of misleading the public about wars and war crimes.”

She told them the truth, and they hated and silenced her for it. Good job, America!

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 71 points 10 months ago (1 children)

After the House voted to block a resolution from GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene to censure Tlaib last week, Greene put forward a new version of the resolution that drops a reference to a pro-Palestinian protest at the Capitol as an “insurrection,” which had made some Republicans uncomfortable.

Gotta love how the loon who was raving about Jewish Space Lasers starting forest fires in the west coast is now a grand defender of the Israeli point of view.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

They hate Jewish people but support the fascist Israeli apartheid regime. The exact opposite of decent and empathetic people as always.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 49 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I don't care for the precedent of censuring a Representative for an unpopular stance. Censure should be for things that actually bring disrepute on Congress itself, like obtaining a seat through false pretenses or violating decorum by screaming during the State of the Union.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Apparently there have been 9 (now 10?) censures in the House since 1966.

Our government is an embarrassment. This punishment is supposed to embarrass the censured member, but it embarrasses every member that voted Aye far more

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Can't embarrass someone who can't feel shame

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Republicans no longer debate ideas, they hunt them down and kill them.

[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This is what happens when politicians tell the truth about real issues. notice how there have been no censure for Qanon or Jan 6 bullshit.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Freedom of speech, unless you're brown

[–] RubberStuntBaby@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

lEgiTiMaTE pOLiTIcAL diScOuRcE!!

[–] halfempty@kbin.social 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Shame on any Democrats who joined the Repubs for this injustice. She speaks the truth against massive pressure from AIPAC. It's a McCarthy atmosphere where anyone who dares speak a balanced perspective on Israel and Palestine gets crushed.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There has always been a big Zionist influence in the media and politics. It is ridiculous honestly. A repub could get caught saying the N word and they wouldn't censure them, but don't you dare say anything negative about Israel.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Republicans could call all jews the k word but as long as they still support Israel, they'd be fine, and probably get aipac donations for it.

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 10 months ago

Max Miller can say Gaza will be turned into a parking lot, but that's fine and normal.

[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 10 months ago

Uh, can they vote on the budget, please?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Fuck the GOP and fuck those 22 Democrats! She's speaking truth to power and they know it!

This is politicial theatre for the owner donors and the least informed/most misinformed voters, but with chilling real world consequences for not only Tlaib herself, but EVERYONE who dares speak up for the innocent victims of the Israeli apartheid regime or any other tyrannical government that happens to have business with rich and powerful Americans 🤬🤬🤬

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s not like they’re not facing an imminent shut down or anything.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But their rabid fanbois, tho.

At this point, they could shit in their hand, say it came from Trump, and sell viewing tickets to fund their PACs. I don't know why they bother with this obvious political theatre.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Doesn't explain those 22 despicable Democrats, though..

As for why, that's as simple as it's depressing: because it's the kind of thing their owner donors and the most un/misinformed voters love.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Censure has no effect if anyone was wondering. Removal from committee and expulsion are the only real things Congress can do.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

While you're right about it having no practical effect in itself, it DOES have a symbolic effect that's very chilling towards the free speech rights of those telling the truth about the Israeli Apartheid regime.

Bad faith actors will be able to point to it to legitimise all kinds of heinous suppression of divergent voices and the truth they're spreading.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

While you're right about it having no practical effect in itself, it DOES have a symbolic effect that's very chilling towards the free speech rights of those telling the truth about the Israeli Apartheid regime.

Bad faith actors will be able to point to it to legitimise all kinds of heinous suppression of divergent voices and the truth they're spreading.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Following the vote to advance the censure resolution, Tlaib delivered an emotional speech on the House floor and argued that her criticism of the Israeli government should not be conflated with antisemitism.

“We are human beings just like anyone else,” she said after a long pause, during which Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota stood up to comfort her and put her hands on Tlaib’s shoulder as the congresswoman braced herself against the podium.

The Anti-Defamation League describes the chant “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” as “an antisemitic slogan” and “rallying cry (that) has long been used by anti-Israel voices, including supporters of terrorist organizations such as Hamas.”

Tlaib has defended the phrase, writing on X, “From the river to the sea is an aspirational call for freedom, human rights, and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction, or hate.

On October 25, Tlaib replied to her earlier post on X, saying, “Media outlets and third-party analysts have raised doubts about claims and evidence offered by both Israel and the Gaza Ministry of Health, and I agree with the United Nations that an independent investigation is necessary.”

“Rather than acknowledge the voice and perspective of the only Palestinian American in Congress, my colleagues have resorted to distorting my positions in resolutions filled with obvious lies,” Tlaib continued.


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