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[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's weird to me is, the dark ages weren't dark for the Middle East, they kept on learning and expanding. What's in a name and all that.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Historians of the medieval era hate the term "dark ages", even in relation to Europe. The whole notion that the Roman Empire went poof one day and then everything sucked for 1000 years is just cartoonishly wrong.

[–] Speiser0@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

I once heard in some history tv show that it's called "dark ages" not because of the bad living conditions, but because we know so few things about it, compared to other history periods.

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[–] ToastyMedic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only a little unfortunate they skipped the enlightenment, akin to what Europe had.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They didn't skip it, the enlightenment was a continuation of what they came up with. I'm pretty sure they didn't deny the earth is round and the sun is the center of our galaxy.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Medieval people thinking the Earth was flat is a myth that was made up during the Age of Enlightenment.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmmm, the minions probably did think the earth was flat since that's what the church told them. Definitely, most of the thinkers of that time knew it wasn't and were told to keep it hush hush or there would be harsh punishment. It's not a one size fits all kind of thing, and just like everything else, it's complicated.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

That is a myth that has been debunked a long time ago. In fact, the Earth being round was discovered in antiquity and Eratosthenes measured the Earth's circumference almost accurately in about 240 BC.

[–] ToastyMedic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

That's not what it was, not by a long shot, but alright.

[–] decisivelyhoodnoises@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry what learning and expanding are you talking about? Can you please be specific about which years and give a source?

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humanity will not exist long enough to reach said bright future

[–] TheLadyAugust@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm worried the bright future will start right as the last humans die....

[–] DeadOfMind@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That's why it's called the bright future.. Right?

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Keeping in mind that a single axis for progress is reductive: also, don't forget that there have been and will be backslides. For example, European colonialism set back a lot of progressive / alternative cultures, genociding them or converting them to something that better-served the interests of empire (e.g., race rules).

[–] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Stop using proprietary software, embrace FOSS. Krita, GIMP, Inkscape.

[–] w00t@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You want me to say "Feel free to GIMP your variants"? =\

P.S. I made this in Inkscape actually :)

[–] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The word you are looking for is "make" or "edit".

Kids these days... Have to rename everything! /s

Did you know that "to google something" is the proprietary version of "to search something"? See!!! Proprietary software has integrated into conversational phrases! *It's time to stop!*

I envy you because I don't know how to use Inkscape properly (it looks very complicated). I don't really need/use it, so yeah.

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

#ABSOLUTELY PROPRIETARY

[–] ares35@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

keep using 'photoshop' as a generic term and verb until it becomes 'generic enough' for adobe to lose its trademark. same with 'google' ftm.

[–] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nooo!!! You are only helping them! /s

Instead use edit/make/search.

*Look how they massacred my ~~boy~~ English!*

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shhhhh it’s okay to let people enjoy things

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Another alternative is that we’re already living in the “Golden Age” of Mankind, which is kind of scary to think about.

[–] OpenStars@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We may look back at these days - you know, where not all diseases kill you, and in fact were super easily handled, barely an inconvenience!:-P - and wish to have such things as "antibiotics" again, before bacteria all became immune to them.

Or maybe the world will rally together, and start funding research into alternatives quickly enough for it to matter? Just like climate change too...

It's a good thing that people aren't anti-science now, bc that surely would be a problem if we want to reach that bright shiny happy future we keep hoping for. :-|

[–] decisivelyhoodnoises@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is very naive to think that the collective endgoal of humanity is to have super health when right now the only goal is which super power will dominate over the others, killing everyone who stands on their way

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[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there's only one future for humanity that's bright posadist-nuke

[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Climate change will also kill capitalism and can signal aliens far away.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] w00t@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

yep, also a viable variant

in reality the graph alternates black and white and only holds true for one certain location/group at a time

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We don't have time for your full scale reality. The luxury is gone to shop for quality. It is all a sacrifice of illusion now.

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I'll believe it when we dismantle the nukes, class society, and fossil fuel industry. A better world is possible but only if we fight for it.

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

The day i realized this and that i wouldn't live to see said bright future was rather disheartening

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