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[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's weird to me is, the dark ages weren't dark for the Middle East, they kept on learning and expanding. What's in a name and all that.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Historians of the medieval era hate the term "dark ages", even in relation to Europe. The whole notion that the Roman Empire went poof one day and then everything sucked for 1000 years is just cartoonishly wrong.

[–] Speiser0@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

I once heard in some history tv show that it's called "dark ages" not because of the bad living conditions, but because we know so few things about it, compared to other history periods.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Absolutely. It's sucked a lot longer than that.

[–] ToastyMedic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only a little unfortunate they skipped the enlightenment, akin to what Europe had.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They didn't skip it, the enlightenment was a continuation of what they came up with. I'm pretty sure they didn't deny the earth is round and the sun is the center of our galaxy.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Medieval people thinking the Earth was flat is a myth that was made up during the Age of Enlightenment.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmmm, the minions probably did think the earth was flat since that's what the church told them. Definitely, most of the thinkers of that time knew it wasn't and were told to keep it hush hush or there would be harsh punishment. It's not a one size fits all kind of thing, and just like everything else, it's complicated.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

That is a myth that has been debunked a long time ago. In fact, the Earth being round was discovered in antiquity and Eratosthenes measured the Earth's circumference almost accurately in about 240 BC.

[–] ToastyMedic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

That's not what it was, not by a long shot, but alright.

[–] decisivelyhoodnoises@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry what learning and expanding are you talking about? Can you please be specific about which years and give a source?

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

pretty much everything between ~600 and 1900 and pretty much everywhere from Morrocco to Turkey to Iran.

Just read up on Moors, Ottomans, Iranians, Mail Empire, Islamic culture, science and arts...

A lot of it in Palestine got destroyed by the savage European crusaders though.