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The Diablo 4 Steam release is struggling, with mixed reviews and less than 2,500 players (www.pcgamesn.com)

submitted 11 months ago by nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works to c/games@sh.itjust.works

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[–] haysupdood@sh.itjust.works 145 points 11 months ago (13 children)

That Blizzard is selling their games on Steam at all speaks volumes about how poorly they are doing.

All of the design talent and experience has been purged from their ranks in the last 10-12 years. They are a trash tier developer and have burned all the nostalgic goodwill of their past successes.

Kotick killed the golden goose, ruined countless careers and lives, and now he gets to leave with hundreds of millions at the end of the year. Capitalism at is finest.

[–] Virkkunen@kbin.social 39 points 11 months ago (5 children)

That Blizzard is selling their games on Steam at all speaks volumes about how poorly they are doing.

No, it doesn't at all. All of this was just preparation for the Microsoft acquisition, by having Actiblizzard games in a third party platform as a way to show that they're "not creating a monopoly"

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[–] MelodiousFunk@kbin.social 23 points 11 months ago

All of the design talent and experience has been purged from their ranks in the last 10-12 years. They are a trash tier developer and have burned all the nostalgic goodwill of their past successes.

What's crazy amongst all this madness is whatever skeleton crew they stuck in a closet to tend to the corpse of D3 has been knocking it out of the park lately. It's like they got a green light to do whatever and started ticking features from the community wishlist. It won't last much longer as after next season it'll just be cycling through previous content. But at least for now, someone over there appears to care.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That Blizzard is selling their games on Steam at all speaks volumes about how poorly they are doing.

And at a 25% discount so soon after launch. It's crazy!

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

It's 25% on Xbox too

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's so sad to see one of the greatest gaming companies in history go down such a dark path..

It feels like almost yesterday when I was unwrapping that fresh copy of WarCraft II and being stunned by the CGI intro, seeing the Orcs on their great warships and thinking "Holy hell".

What happened, man? Why does money ruin absolutely fucking everything?

[–] LoamImprovement@ttrpg.network 5 points 11 months ago

Why does money ruin absolutely fucking everything?

Because nobody who gets a sufficiently large amount of it to stop worrying about their finances is ever satisfied with that amount of money.

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[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 11 months ago (2 children)

To be honest, most people that wanted to play the game already got the game on Battlenet, so obviously it's not going to have large numbers.

[–] Skies5394@lemmy.ml 21 points 11 months ago

And those who were waiting for Steam may have just heard the announcement about it likely coming to Game Pass in 2024.

They’ve waited this long, why not a a little longer.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I loved D1-3 and had the collector editions. D4 I completed Act 1 and haven't touched it since.

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There’s just no soul to the game, I’m the same as you, and it really disappointed me.

It’s the last Blizzard game I will ever buy.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

It feels like a mobile game and just laying any of the luster of the previous games.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is it because D4 is shit? Because it was kind of shit.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I didn't even try it after reading initial reviews.

They sucked all the fun out of the game.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I love how it’s already 25% off.

I have 3k+ hours in Diablo II and D2R and 300-400 in D3.

I won’t touch Diablo 4.

[–] nathris@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm content to wait a few years to see if it gets any better. I bought D3 on launch and didn't come back until a year after the expansion.

With the amount of microtransactions in the game it's only a matter of time before it goes on sale for like $15, or goes free to play. I'll get it then.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hot take: I preferred D3 at launch, and was extremely disappointed when they removed trading and economy. The game got super boring to me when I could hear a up a char in a few hours, and nothing I found was actually worth anything. Without a sense of value, it’s just like “oh boy another numbers up item irrelevant to my build.”

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The gear before loot 2.0 was atrocious. Values were too random. The best items for everyone was a perfectly rolled Skorn or whatever it was called with stats for their class. I sold and int based one for over 200 dollars.

[–] nathris@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I found a polearm that happened to have decent base damage, and nothing else. Sold it for $20 on the RMAH and ended up using that to buy the expansion when I finally came back.

Can't stand the way it works now either though. It's basically one of those idle games now. You just play the same shit no matter what difficulty. The only difference is the number of zeros on the damage numbersnas you gradually gear up to whatever the season armor is.

That's what keeps people coming back to D2R. You get a new piece of gear and suddenly you can run areas that you couldn't before. You have that carrot of maybe one day getting an enigma or eBotD, or you'll get a good drop for another class and now you're levelling up an alt so they can use that gear.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

D2R have plenty of classes that can run end game farming naked or shopped gear.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The game is 4 months old, 25% off on a sale is to be expected. The majority of a games sales are always heavily frontloaded.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tell that to Elden Ring and PC Red Dead and fucking where’s my PC Returnal sale for a copy for my partner

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Red Dead Redemption 2? I got that on PC for like AUD$20 6 months ago (RRP AUD$120). Elden Ring on PC has been half price at least plenty of times already.

Returnal is Sony who don't like to drop their prices too much, but it has also been on sale for half price.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

None of those are in four months, though. Especially RDR2 hahaha

Elden Ring has gone on sale… twice. Only once for half price (when I bought it)

When did Returnal go on sale? It’s been on my partner’s wishlist forever.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

RDR2 was 20% off within a month on pc.

https://steampricehistory.com/app/1174180

Diablo 4 is the 4th best selling game in the USA this year. Sales are not an issue for Diablo.

Also Steam isn’t the only place you can buy steam keys.

[–] NinjaJoey209@lemmy.ca 31 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Blizzard really sleeping at the wheel this past decade, they probably should have invested into talent and another IP instead of pleasing their shareholders when Activision was associated with them.

Sucks what business does to moniize creative process/art.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It does that to EVERYTHING, not just art. The functional stuff gets bogged down in capitalist BS, too. Just look at DRM. An entire sector devoted to making copying things more difficult just to protect money. Corporatiins spend so much time protecting profits instead of actually innovating.

[–] Hyggyldy@sffa.community 1 points 11 months ago

No but don't you see?! Something something free market! Something something innovation! It's good for corps to be cancerous and destructive!

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

Enshittification. Blizzard used to be good, until billions of dollars became part of the equation, now they're as shit as ubisoft.

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[–] thantik@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Blizzard: "Are we the bad guys?"

lol, who am I kidding -- they don't have enough self-introspection for that.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"you guys have phones, right?"

[–] cryptiod137@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

"So you're saying the breast milk wasn't for everyone?"

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 months ago

The majority of people that want to play D4 already got it through Blizzard's own damn launcher.

Season 1 was terrible, but I am enjoying season 2. It's not perfect but it came with a lot of much needed QOL improvements. And I like the vampiric powers. The cosmetics are still stupid expensive though, so I'm not touching that shit.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I played the beta and it was the most bland shit ever. Blizzard seems to think making shit boring as fuck and soulless is a good thing? I hate the art style of both 3 and 4 as well, no idea why Diablo games look like cartoon shit these days instead of the dope ass dark moody environments of the first two. 4 is pretty much the culmination of every bad idea Blizzard has wrapped into one

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

no idea why Diablo games look like cartoon shit these days instead of the dope ass dark moody environments of the first two.

Diablo 2 was cartoony as hell lol. What are you talking about? If anything, 3 and 4 have gone more back towards the originals visuals.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

We just have different eyes I guess, I couldn't agree less.

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[–] Stuka@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago

There are too many good, reasonably priced games for overpriced, mediocre bs.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People can be dumb. But people have actually figured out that Blizzard is a fucking garbage developer anymore.

[–] Buddahriffic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Not only that, but most people who wanted to get Diablo 4 already got it through Blizzard's store/launcher. Despite their drop in popularity over the last decade or so, they are still very visible, so it's not like going on Steam exposed the game to many people who wouldn't have been aware of it if they pay any attention to gaming news.

I only get mine from browsing Lemmy and formerly Reddit. I haven't been paying any specific attention to Blizzard but I still knew when Diablo 4 was released and that the Overwatch I paid for has been replaced with a f2p Overwatch 2.

[–] shectabeni@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

As nice as it would be to have it on steam there is just no incentive to rebuy it. It doesn't even take much extra work to get the battle net version running on a steam deck.

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Why on earth would they release during patch 1.1 and season 1 when everyone has said it's garbage?

Season 2 is OK so far, but it's still early. They actually made it possible to get something done. Release steam version after you've built some good will.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 2 points 11 months ago

This game was not engaging at all for me until like the very end. It has no replay value like the previous installments did. Not really surprising.

[–] _spiffy@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

I bought it because I was tired of the launcher and the bnet version was gifted to me. I also wanted to do my part for bumping the numbers for linux players.

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