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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 211 points 10 months ago (56 children)

We want teachers to be teaching and not having to waste time measuring a girl’s shirt or making a girl feel uncomfortable,” Shultz said.

Good because policing what girls wear stems from this fucked idea that boys have no sexual self control or responsibility for same and that women thus have to take responsibility for it via modesty.

So with those idiotic notions, rape victims get blamed for appearance, consent doesn't enter the conversation, rapey boys are "boys being boys", and similar awful shit.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 191 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

From the article:

As a dad, that’s very concerned about my children ....

I may disagree with it, but his kids aren't mine, so he, as the parent, he can prevent his daughters from owning that offending clothing.

...as well as everyone else’s kids in the district,

And here's where it goes off the rails. Why don't you keep your own parenting in your house instead of your neighbor's house, eh? Are you also going to decide what books other parent's kids read? How about what religious beliefs (if any) other parent's kids follow? None of that is your business. If other parents are okay with their kids dressing that way you shouldn't get a say on that.

[–] silentdon@lemmy.world 64 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, there are plenty of people trying to dictate what other people's children read based on their own feelings

[–] AltheaHunter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 10 months ago (5 children)

They'll indoctrinate other people's children into their religion too, if they get the chance.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Yeah my girlfriend’s kids get crap for being atheists from Christian classmates who were clearly taught to act that way by their parents

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[–] Seraph@kbin.social 48 points 10 months ago

Maybe focus on parenting your own child instead of everyone's.

Also does this guy have a humiliation fetish?

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[–] stephfinitely@lemmy.world 120 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Shouldn't the parents be watching what their kids wear if they are worried about? A basic dress code is all that is needed. Just like the board said its a waste of time to measure girls skirts. Maybe if we didn't taboo the body so much people wouldn't care what someone else is wearing.

[–] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hahahaha my parents “watched my clothing” so I either had extra clothes in my bag that I’d change into, or I’d wear them under a top layer of “approved” clothing and take it off later.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Parent, here. My kids wear whatever the hell they want, and because I'm not giving them any reason to rebel, they don't feel any urge to do that kind of thing.

And if they did for fun or something? I wouldn't give a shit.

[–] stephfinitely@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

I agree I changed my clothes too sometimes in high school. But still a basic dress code would cover the more extreme outfit. But when it comes to a skirt being a slightly short I don't think its worth the school time to check.

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Agreed. We all have bodies. Underwear is appropriate for shared spaces (most people dont want to sit on anyone else's ass juice) but aside from that this prudishness of the human form that many people have is silly to me.

Even if the dad DID walk around like that, I think that's his business. We should all be allowed to wear what we want (undies for sanitary reasons) and if something is offensive then people could just, you know, not look!

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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 104 points 10 months ago (5 children)

“As a board we voted to ultimately let parents and families decide what is appropriate for them. It is the parents and family’s choice and as long as it doesn’t disrupt the school day, it would be a non-issue.”

I was not expecting this level of common sense from an Arizona school board. Good on them.

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[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 90 points 10 months ago

I actually find myself siding with the board here, if only because I have heard all too often about dress codes being overly restrictive or overly enforced. Like the board said, they don't want teachers wasting time measuring a girl's shirt when they should be teaching.

[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If only any of these parents cared about supporting teachers and their kids actually learning.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago

also, none of the traumatic things that happened to me in my adolescence were based around the clothes any of us were wearing.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes my daughter wants to go to school in something too revealing.

We tell her to change because we're her parents and that's called parenting. We don't need the school to tell her what to wear.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 27 points 10 months ago

Nobody's concerned with what their own children are wearing. They're concerned that they might be exposed to abdomen skin (the horror!) because of what someone else's child is wearing.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 43 points 10 months ago (3 children)

His argument is that he looks like a fool dressed like that, so everyone who dresses like that looks like a fool? Weird thinking.

[–] McJonalds@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

his argument is the new dresscode would allow young girls to dress like that and he thinks the school should police it, instead of just raising his kids to be well adjusted and responsible. or it makes his pp hard and it makes it harder to hide that he's a pedo when he's in public

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

The goal of people pushing agendas like this is the elimination of public education and state support for religious schools via “charter schools”. A lot of the people who run for school board who push parents rights are religious fundamentalists, real estate developers, or charter school consultants. This is at least true where I live.

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Kind of tangential but towards the end of HS we had this ongoing trend of wearing costumes to school every wednesday. Some of the class participated more often than others, some (including me) barely participated at all.

There was one week where everyone was determined to participate though, because we had planned for boys to go dressed as girls and vice-versa. I still didn't really care to join them but some friends of mine said they'd lend me some of their clothes and makeup so I'd have no excuse to not participate.

What I didn't anticipate is that they'd dress me up just like the guy in the pic, only difference being that I'm underweight, not overweight. Still looked like a fool though, but that was part of the fun, not some pseudo political statement.

Anyways, tangent over.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 13 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I thought this was going to turn into an egg_irl comment

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[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Real big get back in the kitchen energy from this guy. He probably needs the kids more covered up because he can't control himself around too much exposed teenage girl skin.

[–] iconic_admin@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

From the headline I thought he was protesting in the other direction… get back in the kitchen energy is a great way to phrase his stance.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

Oh, he's a never-nude too! I didn't see him at the convention last year in Berlin. There were literally dozens of us there. Dozens!

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hope someone called the police. Someone stole that poor man's ass.

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[–] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can't parents just talk to their children about how to dress?

I feel like that's a simpler solution and this way the school can focus on teaching.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My wifes a teacher, they do have to spend an absolutely mind boggling amount of time covering shit that really should be handled at home. Literally calling parents about their kids refusing to do any work and the parent saying "I dont know what you want me to do"

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[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago

it's crazy that they're making a crop top and short shorts mandatory dress code for all students

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Looking good dude! Slay king

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