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[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know for certain if he deserves it or not, but this guy will always be known as the guy accused of using a buttplug to cheat at chess. There's no escaping it at this point.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He should go for a brand deal

[–] gothicdecadence@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] BobbyNevada@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The next one up is the bishop.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

wait until the knight comes out

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I honestly feel bad for him. He's always gonna be associated with this meme. I don't blame Magnus for not wanting to play with a known former cheater, but there's a solid chance that Niemann's win against him was legitimate.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Niemann is a known cheater. He cheated tons of times. Whether he cheated against Magnus or not (I believe he did, but Magnus did make some mistakes in that game as well) doesn't change how I feel about the accusations.

Niemann earned the reputation of a cheater... by cheating... a lot. I don't care if he was 16 during the confirmed incidents of cheating. That's well old enough to understand what's happening. And he's really not that much older now. It wasn't that long ago. He should live with the consequences of his actions.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

He would have gone out happier than he is now.

[–] thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 year ago

I did too! Major whiplash

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think using sex toys in a relationship is cheating tbh.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends who’s controlling it.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

NSA: giggles from their desk as they tunnel into lovense and control this guys toy and ruin his entire career

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Open communication is key.

If my partner told me upfront that they want to use a vibrator, I'd personally be fine with that. But if they did it secretly, it would call into question our entire history. A good relationship is built on trust and an honest representation of each person's Elo rating.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Masturbation can't be secret?

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[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should make chess piece shaped butt plugs. Some pieces are just perfect like the bishop.

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I was using it purely for anal pleasure, it was completely unrelated to the chess match at-hand."

[–] spearz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

“You can stick this game, up your ass”

[–] canthidium@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lol, this story is still going? Didn't this whole thing blow up like 8 months ago or something?

[–] nutandcross@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, still circling the rim

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the story just needs to eat more fiber... it will work itself out soon after

Maybe it's eating the wrong kind of fiber. Too much of that and it binds right up

[–] canthidium@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe someone is plugging a book that comes out soon?

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[–] Aggravationstation@lemmy.film 35 points 1 year ago

I read denies as dies for some reason. Very different story

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago
[–] manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does that even work???

[–] naonintendois@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My guess would be it buzzes Morse code on what moves to play.

[–] manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I read another article that said a lot of cheaters do consult software that will suggest good moves. I’m just wondering how you get a sex toy to transmit the data about all the pieces on the board and request it back. Is he squeezing a butt plug with his anus in Morse code with the positions of every piece? Is there a network attached device connected to pick up the signal and send a request to an API and return the Morse code to his butthole? If he can do all that, IMO that’s even more impressive than being an elite chess player

[–] naonintendois@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're missing the more obvious possibility. Someone else is recording the game, inputting the moves, and sending the commands to vibrate. Player only needs to interpret.

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[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Someone gave it a try. https://youtu.be/5uDM3fPeNFM

It's SFW, don't worry.

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[–] wols@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's no need for something that complex.
Someone with access to a chess engine watches the game and inputs the moves into the engine as they're played. If there's a critical move (only 1 or very few of the options are winning/don't throw the game) they send a simple signal to let him know. That can be enough to give you an advantage at that level. If you really want, you could send a number between 1 and 6 to represent which piece the engine prefers to move, but it's likely not necessary.

That said, all the evidence he actually did anything like that is at best circumstantial (mostly statistical evidence supposedly showing how unlikely his performance was given his past performance and rating at the time, as well as known instances of past cheating by him - though the only confirmed ones were several years ago when he was still a kid and online rather than in person).

[–] ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jBlight@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit, this was a real thing?! So that's where It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia got the idea!

[–] wolfkin@mastodon.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@Decoy321 @TheJims It was definitely a real controversy for months a while back. He won and his opponent iirc accused him of having a vib to help him cheat.

General concensus is that it's unlikely. The sheet complexity of communicating movements via vib patterns alone makes it a stretch.

Plus... ya know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWCDc4I0cSQ

[–] Pietson@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wasn't the accusation that he had a device in his shoe, and the buttplug thing was just a joke that got out of hand?

[–] wolfkin@mastodon.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Pietson @TheJims @Decoy321 that wasn't what I heard but I didn't look too too far into it. I read a few of the light articles that discussed the viability of the butt plug cheat device, but aside from that I didn't really go back to the source or anything.

[–] KidsTryThisAtHome@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why do your comments tag anyone remotely involved in this?

[–] adriator@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because that's how Mastodon works.

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[–] malloc@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looking back at this. This whole thing was a wild ride. Magnus took being a sore loser to another level.

Grade A asshole

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Known cheater plays a perfect game as black against a world champion who has never lost as white in decades. Grade A asshole, yep.

https://youtu.be/5uDM3fPeNFM?si=VASdcNJQwOwLFEMa

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Perfect is a bit of a stretch. There was a tiny chance of Niemann winning that match, but smarter folk than I have analyzed the game and said that it was consistent with legitimate play

[–] cryptiod137@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If your dumb enough to believe the reddit meme about a vibrating butt plug being how he cheated, seriously reconsider your life

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