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Property developer and CEO Tim Gurner: "We need to see unemployment rise. Unemployment has to jump 40, 50 percent in my view. We need to see pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around."

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[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 166 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need to see guillotining of CEOs jump 40-50%.

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Adding 40% to 0 is still 0 - we need to add, like, a million %.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

How about we start with one then try your idea

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[–] roadside_yeti@sh.itjust.works 133 points 1 year ago

Counterpoint: maybe he needs to learn that he'd be nothing without the backs of the workers for him to stand on.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just want to clear the record and say that every business owner thinks this, it's just that this jackass has the stupidity to say it out loud. They don't want to pay more, which has become a necessity since the pandemic due to low unemployment rates. By having a larger labor pool, they can cut wages to take advantage of people's desperation.

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[–] deconstruct@lemm.ee 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the "Millenials eat too much avocado toast" guy. He lives on rage bait and generating headlines.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

Yeah I'm not giving this guy a second thought. He's just an idiot

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[–] gbuttersnaps@programming.dev 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

For everyone saying "A 50% increase in unemployment would only take us from 3.8% to 5.7%, that's not bad" keep in mind that 37,000 people die for every 1% increase in unemployment. This man is essentially wishing for the deaths of 70,000 americans.

Edit: just realized he's probably talking about Australia from his accent. Not sure about the numbers for Australia on unemployment deaths, but I imagine the point should still stand.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago

Yes, deaths, but also wishing for poverty and misery. What a humane soul.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the guy that made the original avocado toast comment. He is prime eat the rich material of ever there was any.

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[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tim is literally a freeloader making money off of other people's labor... scum. . .

[–] foo@programming.dev 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He isn't even self made. His grandfather gave him a loan and his boss supported him in his initial start

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[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure even Adam fucking Smith would think he's a bastard.

[–] cjo@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Keep in mind that “jump 40-50%” is not the same as “unemployment at 40-50%”…your headline is sensationalist (or just a misunderstanding of the numbers). This guy’s take is still absurd, regardless.

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[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around

This angers me. If it wasn't for employees many employers be living in a box under the turnpike, because shit doesn't get done by wishful thinking alone.

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[–] Tischkante@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This goes right into my spreadsheet of examples how winning at capitalism does not require much intelligence or foresight. In fact, too much of either hurts your chances.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All it requires is an incredible amount of egocentrism and a dash of psychopathy.

[–] agertudici@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not true! You also have to be significantly lucky. I've met plenty of egocentric psychopaths who are stuck in small-time hustles and utterly pissed about it.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

He should see what we did to the czars and repeat himself.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 year ago

We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around.

Employment is a mutually-beneficial agreement. I pity whoever has that CEO as a boss that thinks so lowly of their subordinates. We need to remind employers that they also depend on their employees.

[–] NotErisma@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean this ghoul is just saying the quiet part out loud. Realistically, every CEO thinks like this.

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I heard "Let them eat cake."

Both in the sense that this is a bullshit thing to say, and in the sense that this is the sort of thing that, if misquoted, could get innocent (at least of saying something like that) people hurt.

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[–] quams69@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Holy shit what an actual psychopath

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

The bourgeoisie are class conscious and act in their own interest. We should do the same.

[–] Plibbert@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

So like, how would one go about trying to figure out where this guy lives?

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

If I see this fuckwit in the street I’m laying him out.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 31 points 1 year ago

He needs to see pain in his life.

[–] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not agreeing with the sentiment, but your title is wrong, OP. He didn't say unemployment should be 40-50%. He said it should increase by 40-50%, which equates to a move from 3.8% to 5.7%

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we start with the CEOs?

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[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Prole says the concept of private property gave the bourgeoisie bad habits, prescribes a redistribution of the means of production if the bourgeoisie knows what's good for them.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does he really not understand that employers make their money from their employees?

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[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Deserves the Wall.

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I see no issue with that statement. Its a surefire for social revolution.

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[–] wombat@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a great point, so great he should win a free ticket to visit the Titanic in a home made sub

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[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I guess that means corporations are actually hoping for a recession so they can "tighten the belt" and fire some workers and the remaining ones will work extra hard to make up the difference. Again.

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[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I prescribe crucifixion for the CEO. Just nail his hands to a cross in the town square.

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[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A 1% increase is associated with 37000 additional deaths. 40% unemployment would be classicide.

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy poster says capitalism gave us bad habits, prescribes CEOs be eaten alive.

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[–] PixelProf@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The beatings will continue until ~~morale~~ productivity improves.

Edit: Sorry, morale is irrelevant.

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