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In a pair of Truth Social posts Monday evening, Trump took aim at the electric vehicle industry and President Biden’s push for more electric vehicles. With this opposition to electric vehicles, Trump is likely trying to persuade Michigan voters to support him over Biden, who carried the swing state in 2020.

The Biden administration has pushed to boost electric car sales, with the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) predicting that two-thirds of new car sales could be electric by 2032 under a new proposal released by the administration earlier this year. Last week, the Energy Department announced plans to invest $12 billion into converting auto manufacturing facilities into plants for hybrid and electric vehicles.

Trump also took aim at Shawn Fain, the president of the United Auto Workers, for supporting the Biden administration’s latest investment into electric vehicles.

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[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Only the fucking Republicans would end up against innovation.

The anti-progress culture war bullshit is overdone and tired. Give it a rest and let everyone else move on without you.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

anti-progress culture war

And anti-science across the board. War on education from elementary school to college. Very unfortunate.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Republicans hate change. They hate that they no longer run the show, though they're doing what they can to get that power back. They hate that the old white man doesn't have the strangling grip on society it once had. They hate that minorities and women have rights, though they're doing what they can to change that. They hate open boarders and people who feel more themselves as a member of the opposite sex. They hate what America was on the path of becoming, which was a place that truly welcomed any and all people.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The fascists don't want to let anyone else alone, though.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The anti progressive party.

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[–] JazzAlien@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He'll only do something if he can force some of the production line through a Trump subsidiary so he can get a cut.

Come down to the Trump™ Pump station and get some gasoline

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

He will yell, get media coverage, wait a few days, somehow declare victory and never speak of it again. Its the same playbook can we just ignore him until his court dates?

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

He's gonna do a shit on a prison toilet hopefully soon.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If we nuke the sun, we don’t have to worry about solar power. It would also combat global warming, which is totally not real. And if we just ban the sale and possession of Lithium, we can get rid of those polluting electric cars. It’s not regulation, it’s for the children.

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think if we nuke the sun it just gets sunnier

[–] prashanthvsdvn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It’ll be inconsequential. It’s like adding lit match stick to a dumpster fire.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

LEFT WING LIES! The sun will pop because it’s a big balloon and fall into the ocean or fall off the side of the earth where the lizard people live and where Hillary vacations. You can see the chemtrails from her personal ufo that she keeps at Area 51. Elvis keeps his there too.

[–] viperex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hate everything about this sentence and the very real line of thinking that Republicans use. Because who else uses it besides Republicans?

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[–] cowfodder@unilem.org 42 points 1 year ago

Goes to show, again, that this dipshit has no idea what he's talking about. Detroit automakers have been steadily retrofitting old plants and building new ones to increase EV manufacturing capabilities.

[–] TH1NKTHRICE@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago

Might as well add this to the pile of lies.

I’m just going to leave this here. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/he-lied-ohio-voters-struggle-after-trump-promised-jobs

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Trump is going to prison, he ain't doin' shit.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not even consistent with their donor's ideology.

EV's exist to save the auto industry, not the planet.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

True. If you want to save the planet you'll redesign your cities to stop the car dependencies. Allow people to walk, cycle, and use public transportation.

Electric cars is just another ruse for huge car manufacturers to sell more shit to ruin the world slightly slower.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Elon back from picking fights with Xitter bots yet?

[–] rez_doggie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

From MI here, I love my EV and despise anyone who hates on them.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How dare people want EVs! This desire for something Trump doesn't like must be quashed!

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The anti-electric / pro-oil propaganda that "conservatives" pass around is really baffling. They have integrated this stuff into their core belief platform. It's nonsense because EVs seem to be a really great option to solve a lot of problems, and you'd think people that complain about gas prices all the time would want to not have to buy gas at all.

All the sense that I can make of it is that Russia is an oil-export economy, and they have been pushing the pro-oil propaganda into the "conservative" thought pipeline for so long that it just became part of their religion.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It’s more than that. A lot of conservatives think of texas and Dakota when they think of oil. They think of Michigan and Ohio when they think of gas powered cars. They think of Appalachia when they think of coal. And they think of all of this as what energy independence is. Meanwhile they think of California and foreign countries when they think of batteries and renewables. To them a windmill is ugly chinese made crap that will leave them with rolling blackouts when they need electricity the most

More than all that though they think climate change is a lie to convince them to stop living the way they want and to take their jobs and make them subservient to the government. Because even if the democrats are right the new jobs aren’t going to someone who dropped out of high school to mine coal in a rural town in West Virginia. Sure Columbus might get more jobs, but zanesville wont.

It’s performative opposition. No one really thinks there’s some kind of actually intellectually coherent views regarding incandescent bulbs, fuel efficiency, or solar power. It’s a conditioned reaction at this point. Sure, the oil lobby will oppose it, but it’s not like Big Bulb is trying to get rid of smart bulbs.

They’ve been conditioned to respond to the talking point of “the government is trying to tel you what to do” to such an extent that Biden could win the next election if he announced a government initiative to stop people from chaining themselves to rocks and jumping into the nearest lake.

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[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Progress?! Not on my watch!!!”

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

What's the ten year forecast for fuel prices again? EV is the future, those not on board will get left behind like those in the 20s who refused to switch from the horse to a automobile.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems misguided as appeal to a big chunk of Michigan voters. The car companies are all retooling lines for EVs as demand continues to increase and they don't seem to be turning over tons of employees to do so. For auto industry workers electrification seems to be somewhere on the scale between an lateral move and a boon.

But I'd think it would still play in Alaska and the gulf states where all the oil drilling and refinement happen. Though I also suspect we'll see hydrogen economy jobs ramping in the gulf states since that's where Toyota has most of the US manufacturing.

[–] Trashcanman@midwest.social 13 points 1 year ago

Not only are the autos retooling factories to build ev’s they are investing billions in new battery plants. A big part of the UAW negotiations are making sure that future ev’s are made with union labor. EV’s are coming and dipshits like Trump won’t be able to stop it

[–] ToAllPointsWest@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Well he won't have to worry about EVs from his prison cell

[–] krayj@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Trump is likely trying to persuade Michigan voters

Why would this persuade Michigan voters? Are Detroit auto-makers forbidden from manufacturing electric vehicles?

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[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

He seems to have missed doing an entire side of his head with orange makeup.

What a strange strange man.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

At this point, ranting against EVs is the equivalent of your crazy old Uncle ranting about how Satan is possessing your Commodore 64 in the 80s. That's how these people look to me now. Long over-the-hill fuckers with nothing better to do than yell at inevitability.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Elon sat there with a pet leopard.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He has to have polling saying this is a winning message, since he has repeated it a few times and it's an actual policy proposal.

But dang this doesn't FEEL like a winning message. The federal government is giving billions to major Michigan manufacturing facilities and he's...against it?

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Probably a winning issue with petroleum mogul donors. He’s trying to fish for money.

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[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Can we push some EVs off a cliff onto his head?

And then build functional public transit for everyone.

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