I don't think the average Joe would know how expensive Warhammer 40k or model trains are.
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Is it cheaper if you 3d print your own minis?
Short answer is probably not, it depends.
If you have a printer set up and ready to go, it certainly can be. But for me to get a printer and all the fixings (printer, cure/wash station, resin, tent and ventilation for fumes) I was out about 700 Cad. And then you gotta get stls, some are easy others are way harder. Some of those are free and some are paid. And then I myself am paying for lychee pro, so that's around a Netflix sub down the drain. Once that's all clear there is the insane time investment. I can easily spend 30-60 min processing a job and prepping the printer for the next print. Finding, prepping an stl to print if everything is good can take as short as an hour, but can take much longer if things are hard to find, or if it's a complex object to support. And then if you fail that print, all that time and resin (not too terrible, my large prints are like 5 bucks, small minis are under a dollar) is wasted.
After all that, there is still things I plan to buy. I lack the patience to try printing void dragon c'tan, and there's only one source that I could hope to buy a decent imotekh stl, and it'd be more expensive than buying the model (I regret buying it. That is the first and last time I ever get a finecast model).
For me the fun is in the journey not the product. I've had a lot of fun printing my necrons. I don't plan on playing in anything official, just friends so that angle isn't an issue. I went into it wanting to take up 3d printing as its own hobby and I do not regret going this route, but building a single 2k army like I plan to is not worth it. Past that I imagine the savings will roll in, but I don't really care for another army. Ethics wise I'm happy to vote with my wallet by diverting money to printing VS. paying for overpriced models.
Maybe not as expensive as the others, but crochet/knitting/sewing all start off fairly cheap, and then the next thing you know you're offering to service old men behind a Joann's fabric because you need this particular fabric and you need an entire bolt of it, and it's the one fabric in the entire fucking store that isn't on their amazing buy one get 73 free sale for the week.
The problem is not the price of the yarn, the problem is that none of us have self control and will hoard thousands of dolars in yarn in a closet and not use it because "it's too pretty I need the perfect project for it".
...and then we go out and buy more yarn
I do not appreciate you spying on me and posting about it. Rude.
I just started crocheting this week 🥲
It's a wonderful habit! Don't listen to me. Haha. Fiber crafts are seriously awesome. I'm a total novice at crochet, an intermediate knitter (Portuguese style), and I sew half way well. It's so much fun, and so worth it. ... Just read your coupons carefully.
Yep! Especially buying like ethically sourced yarn and stuff. It's why I buy acrylic yarn because buying yarn from local dyers is difficult as.
Same boat. I'm poor as fuck. I hate that I make so many decisions to buy things I know aren't the option ethically, and that applies so hard to yarn. Really anything in the textiles industry. I try not to buy animal fiber at all unless it's thrifted.
Keyboards are generally known about, but the ergo part of it is a rabbit hole within the rabbit hole. Some people literally design, 3D print, wire up, solder and program one-off keyboards because they don't like the ones made by other people.
Oh hey, you called? https://imgur.com/a/INk7FzQ
that is a fantastic build. and the wax lacing! It's such a lost art, but it works so damn well! Next PC build I do I'm lacing all of my cabling.
It's infectious too. I REALLY want to get good with one! and don't get me started on the absolute craziest style: chorded keyboards! Insane!
I'll do the reverse - I think most people would expect homebrewing beer to be quite hard to get started with, but for $50 you can get everything you need to start making a really quite good beer, and save money at the same time (homebrewed beer is usually much cheaper than store bought)
If you want to get started search for "brew in a bag" and buy a kit beer mix. You'll need a handful of equipment like a brew bag and fermenter, but that stuff is really cheap.
Then you can indeed go down a massive rabbit hole of refinements, but it just amazed me that the first beer you make will already be a good one.
From my experience, it's not that much cheaper, especially after considering time cost. One issue with it though is that you get a lot of the same type of beer, which isn't totally bad but also somewhat puts a stopper on trying new beer. It's great if you've got plenty of people to share it with though, but I don't have enough that enjoy beer.
I am still amazed about how much money you can spend on making coffee at home. 300€ for a manual grinder - "that's the cheao chinese stuff" wtf
Racing drones.
It turns out when you crash your $500 drone into a brick wall at 50mph, shit breaks and you get to spend more money if you want to fly it into another wall
This has both, really. People also have no idea how hard it is to pilot the quick, expensive little bastards. You're gonna spend a good chunk of time in the simulator before you can do anything with a real one. But hey, at least you can fix them, unlike DJI stuff where at the smallest little thing it's bricked.
I feel like a lot of people might think miniature building/painting could be easy - or at least quick.
It isn't.
From my understanding it's also expensive as hell.
As an alternative, the game Moonbreakers has a really impressive model painting tool. You paint your figures that you play the game with (though there are defaults you can choose from also). It's an under-appreciated game with top tier voice-acting also. The story is told in audio form you can play whenever in the game, so you can just chill out painting while listening to the game's story too.
Woodworking and collecting old tech. Both my hobbies / crafts, both started very cheap and very little, today in my workshop there's upwards 60k only in machines, not counting the tools, if you want to have a working computer from the 60s or even 50s, you'll pay. And pay and pay. My advice: collect old cars. Or yachts. Cheaper :)
Apparently fur-suits are ~$15,000. You could buy a car for that and still have enough money left over to drive for a year.
Skydiver here.
It's not just money, it's not just skill that makes you a successful jumper.
It's a certain type of attitude and the ability to think when you've aimed yourself at a planet. Not everyone can do it. To be blunt, there is a large part of the population that shouldn't do it, because they have terrible decision making ability.
As far as money, I went through the student program in the mid 90's and it cost me about $1200, if I recall correctly. My first rig, used, was $4000. My second rig, new, was just over $8000. I have 4500 jumps most of which I paid ~ $20 each for. I don't want to do that math.
The best decision I can think of to make when someone asks me if I would like to jump out of a perfectly good airplane and plumet toward the ground at high speeds would be to say "No thanks."
Former skydiver here. The best response I ever heard to the "why would you jump out of a perfectly good airplane" question was, "you should see the planes we jump out of."
Mountain biking.
Warhammer 40k. I heard about the game years ago and thought it sounded pretty cool. Didn't realize that unlike D&D, it's not something generally played without minis. And it's a massive war game. So you need a lot of minis. And it's a massive war game. So you need to know how to strategize or you're gonna suck. High cost and high skill.
I just read the lore instead. 🤷🏻♂️
You can get started homebrewing cider or mead for like $50, especially if what you're brewing isn't carbonated so you can just store it in whatever. You can also buy home garage versions of fully automated brewing and canning lines that will run you into the tens of thousands, not accounting for consumables. It escalates fast.
I imagine the ceiling here is a full production facility rivaling that of Coors or Budweiser.
Modular synths, eurorack is where you find the most accessible modules than the other formats. Sometimes you go and spend 600€ in a module without batting an eye.
Also you have to count the case, patch cables, etc.
It gets expensive quickly if you can't fight the GAS (gear acquisition syndrome)
Also it is a musical instrument so you need to practice many hours to play it affectively.
It is really cool, I do enjoy myself playing with my modular, but would love to have more time to spend with it.
From what I've seen, modulars tend to attract people that love to tinker but aren't necessarily very musical. They spend 30k and years on their setup but when they actually play something it's just space soup. There are exceptions of course, some respected producers do use them, but that's just my casual observation.
Camping. Whether it's at a campsite, where a family might spend tens or hundreds of thousands on an RV and all the gadgets in it, or deep in the woods, where an ultralight backpacker might spend thousands of dollars upgrading perfectly good gear they already had because it could save a few ounces.
To be clear, camping is actually really accessible, and few people go THAT extreme with it. Just... no matter what budget you set for it, there are ways to spend it. :P
Amateur astronomy, you can start with a modest Dobsonian then it get can very expensive very fast and you need to understand celestial coordinates, ccds, optics and such.
Have you seen the price of polo ponies lately?
Sim racing. An entry level wheel cost 100, an okay one 300 and the most expensive I've seen is 100,000
https://www.f1authentics.com/products/red-bull-simulator-championship-edition
Mechanical watches. I guess I grew up with quartz watches and only learned about the existence of automatic watches a few years ago. Marvelous things they are, and of course, high watch brands like Rolex, etc, are tens of thousands of dollars, with certain pieces going for millions. Insane.
I imagine taxidermy is super difficult
The competition is indeed stiff.
huh, I always felt it was kinda dead.
Rock climbing. To start out you basically just need $150 worth of shoes and some $5 chalk. Trad climbing or big wall climbing can be 5 figures and a dozen years worth of experience. And the skill ceiling is probably obvious, but it's become an Olympic sport for a reason.