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Evangelical Christian leader Russell Moore revealed this week that many evangelical pastors have become alarmed that their Trump-loving congregants have become so militant that they are even rejecting the teachings of Jesus Christ.In an interview with NPR, Moore said that multiple pastors had told h...

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 160 points 1 year ago (35 children)

Then maybe they should have corrected them when they were just starting out on all the crazy, rather than endorsing the dude that's literally the closest thing this world has seen to the anti-christ.

[–] EnthusiasticWhale@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is a very leopard ate my face kind of moment

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago (5 children)

...did the pastor just wake from a 6 year coma?

'Christians' switched to Cult-45 the day Trump entered into politics.

[–] LNSY@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I grew up fundamentalist, and they had abandoned his teachings in the 80’s in service to Emperor Reagan.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, really, when did Christians ever follow Jesus' teachings considering how many people were converted by the sword...

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It'll be the ones you don't hear about, for example my grandparents who are some of the kindest, most compassionate people you'd meet. They hosted refugees, consistently voted progressive, and changed church when their previous one started being more anti-LGBT. There's just no headlines in Christians actually acting like Christians.

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The leopard is still hungry

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's not wrong. But what he's leaving out is that all this is very rich coming from him personally, a bit of too little too late when he was actually well-placed in 2016 to make a real stand.

It is true that Russell Moore has been speaking out to some extent against Donald Trump for years. But it is also true that when it would have counted most, during the 2016 campaign season, Moore walked back the strength of his anti-Trump statements in order to keep his highly-positioned job as president of the internal ethics board of the Southern Baptist Convention (an organization I consider to be deeply corrupt anyway):

On June 1, 2013, Moore became President of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, the Southern Baptist Convention's official entity assigned to address social, moral, and ethical concerns. . . . [Three years later,] Moore's vocal criticism of then-candidate Donald Trump during the 2016 election season drew a backlash from fellow Southern Baptists, triggering a crisis in which more than 100 churches threatened to withdraw donations to the denomination's Cooperative Program in protest of Moore's stances and leading to calls for his resignation. After Moore issued statements of apology in December 2016 and March 2017 for "using words… that were at times overly broad or unnecessarily harsh," Southern Baptist leaders affirmed their support for his leadership and he remained in his post. (Wikipedia)

It's hard to call upon the rules and be taken seriously when you have not taken the rules seriously yourself:

“No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and wealth." -- Jesus

EDITED TO ADD: I am not a Christian myself, just comparing idolatry to idolatry here.

[–] victron@programming.dev 57 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Shouldn't he be like the false prophet they warn themselves about? I mean, is not that I expected some of those dumbfucks to even know what the bible says, but fuck, the level of idolatry is astounding.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump embodies every single characteristic that the Bible ascribes to the antichrist. CPAC even built a golden idol of trump a few years ago.

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[–] patachu@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Well, clearly Jesus is the actual false prophet, because a long-haired dark-skinned Middle Eastern socialist who got executed as a criminal sounds like a LOSER.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

This pastor seems to think so.

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

I am not a Christian, and don't have a dog in this fight.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Irony is often lost on people whose primary personality trait is cognitive dissonance.

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[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

You helped create these people. You are these people.

I like messiahs who weren't crucified.

[–] graycube@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They like the "is Lord" part. The idea of divine royalty and unquestioning loyalty. They aren't so keen on teachings of kindness, introspection, self awareness, caring, mutual respect, humility, poverty, etc.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They keep saying that Jesus will return. Yet if he ever did they would dismiss him as a "dirty hippie" and cheer for the cops who beat him to death.

Then crucify him. Then glorify him for dying for their sins again.

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[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The last true Christian was a Middle-Eastern socialist Jew.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Christianity has always been a very comfy place for the worst people.

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[–] style99@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching — 'turn the other cheek' — [and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'" Moore revealed. "And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ,' the response would not be, 'I apologize.' The response would be, 'Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak.'"

Looks like these "churches" are in desperate need of salvation. If only they knew someone who could provide that...

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[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Almost as if they never gave a shit about Jesus's teachings in the first place and only cherry picked a couple of things that fit their existing desires.

Now they're just going mask off.

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[–] Arotrios@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There you have it. They'll turn away from Jesus before they turn away from Trump.

There's something in the Bible about that, if I remember correctly... ahh here it is - 1 John 4:3:

And every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.

Who am I to argue with one of the 12 disciples?

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[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Moore also said that one problem is that many Christians simply feel alienated and lonely, as politics have come to take over the community outlets that churches once held.

Oh, hey, it's basically me. There isn't room for "love your neighbor as yourself" in the Republichristian party. I don't feel welcome at church anymore.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The golden calf strikes again

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I told someone awhile back that in my opinion a lot of the people in positions of influence don’t really understand or appreciate the danger of playing with the type of fire supporting or indulging the ideas that Trump represents brings with it.

It is not as big a leap to go from supporting prosecuting women for having an abortion to save their lives to getting the idea that Governor Abbott has a weak bloodline, due to being in a wheelchair, and should be removed so he is not a drain on the state resources better used for the betterment of the strong as those supporters seem to think.

Essentially they severely overestimate the control they wield over the leopard that will eventually eat their face.

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I find it absurd that evangelicals support Trump so hard. A man who is quite literally the exact opposite of what they are asked to be in scripture. He throws them a couple of pieces of red meat and they dive on it. How sad.

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[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

Bunch of brainwashers upset that the people they brainwashed are getting brainwashed by someone else.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Separation of church and state was created to protect both the state AND the church. Churches are not supposed to be political organizations for their own good. Dividing into camps along political lines and shouting at each other is what happens out in the world. It's not supposed to happen at church.

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[–] s20@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

Oh. What a shock. Look. I'm surprised. See:

😐

[–] Skeith@discuss.online 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To the modern right, Jesus was a beta cuck socialist. Healing the sick?? Loving thy neighbor?? Sounds like some LIBERAL BULLSHIT 😤 (my wife left me)

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[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump is their messiah now.

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[–] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My grandmother was an amazing woman who devotes her life helping others. She was a nurse who also volunteered at old folks homes in her free time, and she donated to many good causes. She loved the teaching of Jesus. Her dad was a WWII vet, and she cared deeply about treating others with love and charity.

She passed away over a decade ago, and while I still don't like the idea that she's gone, I'm happy that she never had to see this all of this happening. She would have been absolutely crushed.

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 18 points 1 year ago

They're just mad because Trump is horning in on their racket.

[–] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

I like the ones that don’t get crucified.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I... hm. I don't know what to say here, except I swear this is a case where the onion has literally written an article about this exact thing occurring. The onion has gone from being believable, to being prophetic. Amazing.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The Onion’s journalists have garnered a sterling reputation for accurately forecasting future events. One such coup was The Onion’s scoop revealing that a former president kept nuclear secrets strewn around his beach home’s basement three years before it even happened. footnote2"

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[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

The leopards are coming from inside the house!

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have they ever really liked Jesus?

Most of the Magats were always terrible people who never once lived like Jesus. Now they actually have someone's name to say who they model their lives after

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

This is /leopardatemyface material.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Where were they the last 8 years?

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