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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 117 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

"The tragedy in Gaza is 100% on Hamas," Fetterman wrote on social media with a screengrab of a Hill headline outlining Ocasio-Cortez's remarks. "Stop using civilians and hospitals as shields, surrender, and release all remaining hostages—and this ends."

What a dismissive piece of shit.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 14 hours ago

Such a fucking disappointment

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 57 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (4 children)

You think CTE causes people to become assholes?

A stroke like Fetterman's often produces even larger personality changes. Sometimes it's for the better, but often it tends to effect the forebrain where things like empathy and critical thinking happen. If it gets other parts in the hind brain that's where you get the other stereotypical stroke symptoms of slurring speech and poor muscle control.

Fettermen wasn't perfect, but he wasn't this huge of an asshole before the stroke

It doesn't excuse any of his shit behavior either. I just always think "why" is an important question when talking about someone's behavior. Ironically enough when it happened Republicans called for him to resign and Dems blindly defended him. After the personality changes he's Republicans favorite Dem and most of his own party hates him.

I wouldn't be surprised if he runs as a Republican next election.

Edit:

Guess I should have "more of an asshole".

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The man got 250K from pro-Israel lobbyists. He's in a position of authority and is being paid to endorse a specific viewpoint that is in direct violation of US and international humanitarian law. I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt here.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's not the benefit of the doubt.

If a stroke changes you it changes you. If it makes you an asshole, it's not just ok to be an asshole.

Every other asshole also has a reason to be an asshole, recency doesn't matter.

But I legitimately don't know if he took AIPAC money in the primary before the stroke. If he did, then yeah, he was already an asshole before the stroke. Doesn't mean a stroke couldn't make him a more blatant asshole. Lack of impulse control is also a common symptom, people lose their filter and that's rarely a positive thing.

It's not excusing it, but we need to understand it so we learn how to deal with it and hopefully prevent the next person from being an asshole.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The man is able to connect the dots of receiving lobbying money and advocating for a certain position. He should be able to connect the dots of civilians dying, and saying that's bad. Lots of people who suffer from strokes learn to control themselves and their personality changes. Fetterman just isn't one of them.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We're saying the same thing.

An asshole is an asshole, it doesn't matter what lead them down that path.

Understanding why people are assholes is worth it because we learn how to deal with them, and maybe even prevent less people from becoming assholes later.

Every society has X% of assholes, there's never zero assholes, but it's worth getting that number as low as possible.

I think everyone agrees there's more than there used to be, and would enjoy less assholes.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

I see what you're saying. My mistake, I misinterpreted your comment. You're honestly a better person than me that would see someone have this kind of stance and say "Let's see where they're coming from". To me, it's just another asshole that society should not even have to tolerate.

[–] quixotic120@lemmy.world 30 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I think it probably has a lot more to do with the fact that pro Israel pacs gave him 250k. You’re just viewing the corruption in realtime

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

He was openly zionist before he was elected, we all just looked the other way or coped with "Well zionism is the default stance in America, he seems like a decent person, so when he actually learns, he'll change his mind".

Only the way he is expressing his view can be attributed to the stroke.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I never heard of that and I was paying attention during that time.

He kind of just came out of nowhere and everyone loved him because he wore hoodies?

I remember he was on Colbert once talking about it, and he just immediately rubbed me as an asshole, but that was probably 2023, a year or so post stroke.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

He kind of just came out of nowhere and everyone loved him because he wore hoodies?

He was doing a lot of things that signaled to the left that he was on our side, talking about unions, healthcare as a human right, prison reform, banning politicians from owning stock, dude's twitter background was even a hammer and sickle Fox News had branded him with for awhile.

Hexbear, cursed with Casandra Syndrome, saw what he was even before the primary, but still hoped for a berniecrat.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I could be wrong:

But his stroke was before the primary.

Did he take AIPAC money in the primary?

Because if he took it for the general, that was a post stroke decision.

Like I said, I don't know, and I couldn't find it anywhere, I may be wrong and he took it in the primary

[–] Hydra_Fk@reddthat.com 4 points 15 hours ago

So your saying they have Jewish stroke lasers? Lol

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago

AIPAC funded his opposition during the primary, but he was a zionist back then too.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Fettermen wasn't perfect, but he wasn't this huge of an asshole before the stroke

NARRATOR: But he was.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

This is who hes always been, but the only thing VBNMW liberals saw was that D in front of his name. We tried to warn them, but they always seem to know better

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago

"stop hitting yourself"

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

"Look what you made me do!"