Right, we get it, but if you tried attracting people to veganism with amazing recipes, and annecdotes of how much healthier you feel, people might come have a conversation and try making some vegan food. Instead these communities drive anyone non-vegan right out the door.

What's the expression? Honey will catch more flies?

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Reformism doesn't work. People that are vegan because it's "actually really good food" or looking for applause for "saving the planet" stop being vegan once it becomes too inconvenient. Because their mindset is that they are doing something good and you can stop doing good things or balance them out with other good deeds and there is an inherent expectation of a reward for being good.

Not supporting slavery and murder however should be the norm, not something that feels like a burden. Being vegan is not doing something good, but not being vegan is doing something evil. This is our position. If someone can't accept that what their doing is evil but needs to be asked nicely not to kill the screaming orphan who never got to meet his mom because we wanted to steal her milk then they won't accept that it is an actual real evil that is taking place. It will remain a theoretical. But there really is a room where these orphans are brought to be murdered. A person murdering them. And a mother who screamed bitterly over losing their child. It is a real evil and being polite about it masks the horror taking place not to mention is completely insincere since we aren't interested in debating or in weighing pros and cons. This isn't a debate like how should we reduce plastic accumulation or the carcinogenic properties of red meat. There is an evil inherent to not being vegan. Fuck the non-vegans.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

Not supporting slavery and murder however should be the norm

it is. most people oppose slavery and murder.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Animal agriculture isn't slavery. I can tell your exact skin tone by the fact you had the gall to make that comparison cx

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Stealing labor while keeping the laborers alive at the barest minimum possible and trading them as property is slavery.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

comparing slaves to animals is what slavers do.

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The bourgeoisie make no difference between me and the cow, except for the commodity we produce. They will push to extract our laborforce at the exact cost it requires to sustain it. The cow is a comrade and fighting for their rights is fighting the system that looks to enslave us as well. If you can't see how the methods in husbandry are used against us then have a look at the holocaust.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

If you can’t see how the methods in husbandry are used against us then have a look at the holocaust.

the holocaust was abhorrent, in part, precisely because it treated people like animals. treating animals like animals is fine.