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Where is he "polling at 35%"?
I believe the meme should say "approval rating at 35%"
Edit: the OP corrected me below
So the whole argument the poster is making is based on a general misunderstanding of what's going on?
Yep. Tropical is a troll account.
Which is not out of place for a president at this point in their first term.
Approval ratings at the end of first term:
Idk dude, of the four below 40%, 3 of them did not see a second term.
Sources:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/final-presidential-job-approval-ratings
Edit: Anyone upvoting this comment is now cursed by my stupidity
Uh, what?
Removing trump and Biden from the list, since one of them will see a second term, of the other 4 only Carter didn't see a second term. Truman was only elected President once, but he served as President for almost 8 full years. Nixon won reelection, but resigned before his second term was out.
And even if you go as far as saying that 3 of the 4 didn't serve 2 full terms... I think it's highly unlikely either of the 2 current candidates will see the 2028 election.
Yeah I'm just an absolute idiot, that is what's going on with that comment lmao. You're right
Still, if you are comfortable with where Biden's campaign is at this point, if you're confident that he can win given his current approval and polls...you're at least lot more confident than me, and a lot more confident than many democratic lawmakers
I'm neither comfortable nor confident... but even if Biden were a corpse I would still be voting against trump.
As all should
Are you suggesting that the GoPs bogeyman was tied for third-most popular president?
And it's relatively meaningless because a lot of Americans are forced to vote, every fucking election for their entire adult life, for the lesser evil.
Tropicals mind
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/
Ipsos/Reuters is like, the grade A of grade A pollsters.
That's 36%, not 35%. According to the link you shared overall Biden is polling about 40%, 2.2% behind Trump.
That also shows Trump at 36%, so polling at 36% is pretty good for that tiny subset of the poll you shared.
Here's a link to the entire poll that you decided not to share for some reason.
Interestingly enough the headline for the poll you didn't link is "Only Michelle Obama bests Trump as an alternative to Biden in 2024". I wonder why you went out of your way to obfuscate that.
Sure, that's the narrative they went with, but notice how they're all on about equal ground with Biden and, unlike Biden due to his mental decline and his administration's lacking ability to communicate, might actually be able to run a coherent campaign if given the chance. Voters are overwhelmingly voting for Biden because he's not Trump. Any one of those candidates can both clear that bar and bring something to the table that actually motivates voters.
I appreciate the good faith response rather than FUD and dismissive memes.
I agree with all of your concerns about the Biden administrations lack of communication and his age. However I disagree that any of those candidates are particularly exciting, they all have pretty much the same national and forgein policies Biden, they're just younger.
At this point being not Biden might be exciting enough for some people. Whoever the candidate is they'll still have the general DNC baggage turning of black voters. They'll have the same support for Israel turing of the anti-Israeli voters. Plus they'll have whatever individual baggage they have that most voters don't know about.
Also we have no idea how they'll perform in a national debate or how successful they'll be at campaigning. Running a presidential campaign is a completely different monster than a state race.
I don't disagree that an alternative to Biden needs to be considered, but I don't see a clearly better candidate out there or a way to replace Biden that won't cause even more problems for the DNC.
I'm not saying they bring anything to the table that Biden doesn't, except maybe being able to avoid his reputation of going around congress to support Israel, but that goes both ways as Biden does have supporters that also support Israel and if Republicans attack a candidate's non-support, I don't expect a democratic candidate to play much defense for Palestine to bring those people back around.
I'm saying that Biden is unable to campaign and make voters aware of what he brings to the table and what he has done to make things better for the average American. Especially in the direct time after COVID.
I guess if nothing else can be done then we're about to watch the DNC learn another lesson at the expense of the stability of our entire nation because, mark my words, he (and we) will not be able to win this fight. The voters cannot be blamed for the failings of the democratic establishment.
Even if he does win, the DNC will have learned that they can put anyone up and cede as much ground to the republicans as they want, as long as the other guy is worse, and I wouldn't call that much of a democracy either. So I'd like to say that I hope I'm wrong, as I will be voting for Biden, but I really can't argue against anyone sitting this one out either.
I might be able to make an argument if they put someone else up, if they give me points to argue for, and I expect that might be the case among voters like myself en masse that argue in good faith and don't expect all the heavy lifting to be done via team-based politics and whataboutism. That is why I argue for democrats to do better even if time is running short. It's honestly, in my opinion, the best we can realistically hope for.
Sure, convince the DNC that a progressive should be on their ballot, so we can vote for them and not waste it instead of senile men fighting for scraps.
The system needs to be gently brought to its knees before we can remove its head.
‘Effing gold Dingdong.
Mockery is the most effective way to beat Blue Maga (imo). We need to show how embarrassing it is to be associated with them.
And calling out the propagandists for their inability to understand the simplest concepts of politics, and their blatant misinformation is the most effecting way to beat MAGA trills.
How many of you get your posts removed for misinformation? Check the mod logs bud. Because from where I sit- the people urging everyone to vote get only their shit removed for bing uncivil and aggressive towards the propagandists urging people not to-
whereas the propagandists get their shit removed for misinformation. CONSTANTLY.
You are the propagandist kiddo, or rather, you are that whom have been so heavily propagandized to, you've lost your connection to reality; so from your perspective, everything that disagrees with your world view appears to you to be propaganda, because your connection to reality has been effectively severed.
And specifically thing thing that got called "misinformation"? It was an ground up analysis I did looking at Bidens probability of winning given his current approval rating. I can repost it if you like.
And guess what?
That analysis predicted this exact moment.
It’s unbelievably funny to me how you people cite “analytics” and polls to support your bullshit where you’ve been told time and again that that shit can say whatever you need it to say to support an agenda/argument, or in the case of news media- PROFIT.
Congrats man. You’re the reason you’re getting the news that supports your own beleif. Crazy, right? I know! Bonkers!!!
Everyone needs to vote like polls don’t exist. Plain and simple.
"You people"
People like Nancy Pelosi or Adam Schiff?
Bro you've gaslit yourself into a fantasy land and you just live in denial.
Says the person that thinks doing nothing will bring change. I’ve asked you people this before and they always run away…
I’ll ask again. If you answer, it’ll at least be interesting, if you don’t- I get to not have to interact with you- either way, I win. So here goes:
When in history has doing nothing ever brought desired change in an election.
I await your strawman.
What do you have to say about the fact that two of the top figures in the Democratic party have asked Biden to step down; they are informing him that he wont be the nominee because he hands the election to Trump?
This is reality. Today's reality. The news of the day.
I’m not sure where you’re getting your programming, but you might want a downgrade.
Pelosi said:
Schiff said:
and:
Trump is barely younger. And you can’t tell me that you’re okay with Trump’s age as long as he can conduct a speech. Or is that what you’re saying?
Your sources are full of shit.
So… as usual, you get caught bullshitting and move on to your only defense- distraction and insults.
Boring and predictable.
And it very much IS about Trump. Your attempts to make Biden out to be the words worst choice when running against a rapist/convict/traitor shows your purpose here.
It’s getting boring trapping you in your own lies man. You really need to up your game.
Or maybe you are the bullshitting distraction, Russian psyop whatever you are projecting these days.
I mean, wouldn't the Russians want the best possible chance for Trump to win again?
Your actions make sense in that context.
I guess if you are really good at suspending reality. And considering your very public and very desperate need to convince people not to vote against Trump because…. Reasons-
It makes sense.
This you fam?
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/heritage-foundation-biden-replace-1235053325/
This you……. fAm?
I don't know dude. You are the one who is doing the work of the Heritage foundation.
You’re the one purposefully misquoting people to suit a narrative intended to split voters.
Lmao, get a job, honkey
Removed, civility.
I listened to a podcast yesterday that said the same thing. Most of us were conservative/liberal at some point. What started to change our minds? Many change when our views are mocked by their wider social circles. Maybe not at once, but eventually.