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[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 81 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Intentionally misleading headline, but not technically incorrect.

These are designed to carry troops through an irradiated battle space and keep them safe from the fallout. At least while they're inside and the filtration systems are functioning properly.

That doesn't mean they were magically enhanced to be impervious to antimaterial weapons, or other types of kinetic damage that happen in combat.

[–] sethboy66@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Thanks for this, I didn't know people thought that nuclear-proof meant that it could literally take a nuke. I certainly hope people haven't been thinking that a MOPP suit will make one a super soldier impervious to nukes or anything considered a chemical (which could be interpreted as all matter).

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's what I'd assume based on the name. If it's radiation/fallout proof, I'd expect them to list it that way.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I assumed it was designed to survive some proximity to a nuclear strike. But definitely not a close-hit, or direct strike.

Far enough away and shielded enough that the flash of radiation doesn’t render its occupants immediately dead.

[–] hamFoilHat@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I know I was assuming that the Russians claimed that they were nuclear bomb proof, at least for the 30 seconds that I knew about them before I read this thread. Seeing the picture I didn't believe that they were in in actuality.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Most people still think the explosion at Chernobyl was an accident.

What are you talkin about, everyone knows the longer you sweat in a MOPP suit the more rad resistance you develop, especially on a hot day

[–] frezik@midwest.social 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Plus, even if it was that kind of nuclear-proof, all that really means is that it can take the pressure of nuclear explosion over its body. Devices based on point pressure, like the kind used in anti-armor rounds or bunker buster bombs, can and do punch through nuclear-hardened targets.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

As an example, RPGs use shaped charges to send a jet a molten copper through armor steel. Even though the devices may seem antiquated, they are extremely effective at burning holes through tanks. If that molten jet happens to come in contact with ammunition, it's generally game over.

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Just duct tape some EREC (explosive reactive egg cartons) on that bitch and you'll be good to go.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As far as I know the copper doesnt actually melt.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have heard a few things, TBH. Everything in the range from simply vaporized and hot to the vaporized metal being in a near plasma state. Shrug.

Wikipedia gives a few numbers ranging from 660K to almost 1200K (copper melt temp is 1358K) from testing it quotes. It seems to be dependent on the cone alloy and the explosive type.

In practice, it's probably is all over the place in regards to temperature. If you can round up a few RPGs, I would totally be down for some testing...

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Sadly I have neither the ability nor the funds to procure a couple RPGs.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The article's premise is that it is a very particular vehicle, the use of which points to scraping deep into the reserves.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Yeah, that's the real story. They're dragging out museum pieces. People who have been anticipating the T34 showing up are getting real excited.