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People who paid relatively a lot to feel that they are on with progress and have good taste. These are not things you can directly buy.
Of course, you can buy knowledge and powerful tooling, but I don't see such hype over digital libraries and good e-ink readers, or over learning programming among Apple fans.
On good taste specifically - Apple has always marketed itself as brand connected to that and has always been the opposite of good taste. I gave up trying to understand that long ago.
And exactly to prove your point I want to mention phone cases with a cutout so you can see the apple logo.
And the whole green / blue messages bullshit. Apple never misses an opportunity to remind it's users they're paying a premium and everyone else is a plebe.
Or just which messages are SMS and which are an encrypted protocol. It was the users that turned that into a measure of status.
Except Apple will the ones that refused to allow iMessage on Android so it's absolutely about status.
I don’t think it is good that they didn’t allow that but it seems non sequitur that means it is about status. I like to know if a message is sms or encrypted. Just like some jabber clients do for private messages. There should be some indication of the message status. And unless you can point to Apple indicating the intent of the colors is for social status and not an indication of protocol, I stand by that.
And I know it is hard to cut through the “fuck Apple” narrative. But to me, they are just another one of many scumbag corporations. I just don’t see any evidence that the intent is social status. That was driven by conspicuous consumers.
Additionally, Apple intentionally makes green bubbles harder to read than blue bubbles.
https://medium.com/@krvoller/how-iphone-violates-apples-accessibility-guidelines-6785172eb343
You missed the news, I guess.
Apple fully admitted a few times that it was intentional. It was 100% an artificially created mechanism to polarize users, and bully them into Apple's "ecosystem".
I didn’t miss that; that just isn’t what it says. Well it is what you say, but that’s not what I’m disagreeing with. I agree with you.
I’m not saying it isn’t a dirty business trick design to lock consumers in. It is. I’m saying it isn’t clear to me that it is designed as a social status issue. That was driven by a large group the users. Even still what this article is talking about is not having iMessage on android, which is not at all what I was disputing. I’m saying the colors serve a functional purpose. Not saying “only a functional purpose” but useful nevertheless.
I won’t be surprised if android likewise distinguishes between sms and messages using the new protocol.
so you just defend everything apple does but you agree it's dirty bullshit.
nice! seems like you pick winners bud.
This is truly a dizzying exchange. What I said was three things. The bubbles are designed to, at least in part, distinguish message protocol, the zealous conspicuous consumers are responsible for making it a status symbol, and not porting the system to android for vendor lock-in is a scummy process. I am really struggling to see me defend Apple in this case.
They are, and Apple consistently does things the way to let that work.
Don’t they all? I’ve never looked for a case showing the logo, but every case I’ve ever had show it
And besides the tech bros with the throw away money, many of the people who have bought this thing are “influencers” and now are having trouble figuring out how to make content with or about this thing, because it’s early adopter play tech and has very little actual use, so the influencers are the ones putting out videos like “what would I even do with this?”
It's a devkit, that apple is even selling these things to 'users' is idiotic.
Hilarious. It doesn't even look cool to wear it. It's slightly better than Google Glass, but what are you going to do with it?
I mean, as I pointed out, before an App Store, not much. After an App Store and some competition there are crazy cool applications. Cooking? The device can show you how much of your food to chop, where to put it, visually measure a teaspoon or tablespoon or whatever for you, automatically start a timer when you get the chicken in the pan or whatever. Look up at the stars and see constellations, flights, weather, etc overlaid by your view. On-road gps directions where there is an arrow video game style showing you where to go. Apps that could assist in things like building legos by showing you which pieces to grab and where they go. Looking down over the earth while on a flight to see exactly what landmark/town/area/state you are looking at. There are awesome applications to the tech. Whether we will see them or not is a matter of speculation. Apple is advertising a 3500 dollar headset with cool hardware and boring ass software right now
That may be a more complex device, but I'd prefer something like a light Mandalorian helmet, with normal glass before your eyes (BTW, I think I've read about new kinds of glass which change degree of translucency depending on ionization or something) and picture being projected on it or with some display inside. I'm fine if that'd be 16x times fewer pixels.
Looking at the outside world via a computer display is just instinctively awful.
Yes it's called electrochromic glass, although it's actually more kind of glass laminate. But yeah it can be engineered in such a way as to change color depending on solar output or on the presents or absence of an electrical impulse. It's been around for about 20 years but it's only been practical for about 10.
People have even already integrated it with transparent displays so all of the technology is already there. It just needs commercializing.
Polestar apparently have a car with electrochromic glass in its windows so you can turn those into a computer display.
but people have been cooking, monitoring the sky and roamed the world for some ten thousand years now. what's the innovation here?
It has a logo of an apple on it now
But $3500 to tell me which LEGO to pick up is totally worth it.
If I want to look at the world through a screen I'd stay home and watch a documentary.
The camera they use will never have the acuity, color perception and dynamic range that your eyes have. It probably doesn't work super well in dark environment and it's definitely completely useless for stargazing.
I always thought Google Glass looked pretty sleek. Much better than having a full VR set on your face. You had a full field of vision, just a small HUD.
What people seem to be doing with it is driving around in Tesla's with it and looking like even larger burks than they usually do.
I guess this is the new gold standard for douchebag detection. That used to be the gold apple watch, but this feels like a more glaring example.
What sucks is that at some point iPad marketing and Apple aesthetic etc felt for me a bit as if it's going in the direction of the
for real, and I think that's intentional, just like with M1 and adopting a Unix-like OS and what not, and some series on Apple TV not being that stupid, they always tease you in subtle ways, never ultimately delivering.
Its center of mass is definitely on the douchebag side, but until you clearly see their every move and retrospect over 20 years or so, you are never sure.
Its just a cash grab company that didnt yet collapse, because of its hype around it and its fanboiiiiis. And everybody supporting apple are just those who are deeply invested into that closed ecosystem. If apple dies out for any reason, they are screwed because their products are bricked without apple.
Give them credit for acting since the beginning the way all bigger tech companies do now.
Like big assholes? "With our products you feel like you are a better than others"? Yeah they started that shitty trend.
This is understated. They started it, and proved how incredibly successful misleading and exploiting consumers was. They (almost entirely) killed the replaceable batteries in phones, the headphone jack, and the persuit of genuine innovation.
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