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[–] Lilith_the_serpent@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All indigenous people around the world knew the wisdom of the turtle .... It's almost as it white man severed the connection between the people and the sun ....

Wtf is this woo woo garbage lmao

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't you know the world sits on the back of a giant turtle??

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Turtles all the way down.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's a turtle, bro.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how did the cherokee account for the fact that this is mathematically incorrect and would cause dates to drift across the actual solar year?

[–] Lilith_the_serpent@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, it's incorrect when it comes to the solar year but is correct when it comes to the lunar cycles. So I guess they didn't track time by the solar year then. It's just a matter of cultural perspective. Tracking the seasons and the lunar cycles were probably more important to Indigenous Americans because of needing to know when to seed, harvest, and hunt as opposed to knowing the exact time it takes for the earth to loop around the sun.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the seasons are a function of the earth's position in its orbit around the sun, not the number of moon cycles that have taken place

[–] Lilith_the_serpent@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OK. Whatever you say. I guess the turtle shell is all bullshit.

You must've come from reddit.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you're the one badly misunderstanding the how the solar cycle works, how the lunar cycle works (it's not exactly 28 days, the turtle shell method wouldn't work here either), how seasons work, mythologizing "Indigenous Americans" as though they're a monolith and pretending they're too stupid to realize that the flower moon of this year is a lot warmer than the flower moon of the year they were born. you've substituted pop mythology for actually thinking about a problem, then got defensive, insulting and shitty when someone pointed out that your basic assumptions are deeply, provably flawed. if you're gonna be a dick, at least be smart.

[–] Lilith_the_serpent@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

How bouts you shut the fuck up and quit your childish fucking arguing. I'm sooo sorry that I ruined your fucking day so bad for mentioning a method of keeping track of time that differs from your understanding of the world. You do realize I didn't create the concept, right? Just keep focusing your anger on me since it's obviously my fault. Fucking drama queen Redditor piece of shit.

Have a nice day. 🖕