this post was submitted on 19 Nov 2023
828 points (94.2% liked)

Lemmy Shitpost

26813 readers
3484 users here now

Welcome to Lemmy Shitpost. Here you can shitpost to your hearts content.

Anything and everything goes. Memes, Jokes, Vents and Banter. Though we still have to comply with lemmy.world instance rules. So behave!


Rules:

1. Be Respectful


Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.

Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.

...


2. No Illegal Content


Content that violates the law. Any post/comment found to be in breach of common law will be removed and given to the authorities if required.

That means:

-No promoting violence/threats against any individuals

-No CSA content or Revenge Porn

-No sharing private/personal information (Doxxing)

...


3. No Spam


Posting the same post, no matter the intent is against the rules.

-If you have posted content, please refrain from re-posting said content within this community.

-Do not spam posts with intent to harass, annoy, bully, advertise, scam or harm this community.

-No posting Scams/Advertisements/Phishing Links/IP Grabbers

-No Bots, Bots will be banned from the community.

...


4. No Porn/ExplicitContent


-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.

-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.

...


5. No Enciting Harassment,Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts


-Do not Brigade other Communities

-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.

-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.

-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.

...


6. NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.


-Content that is NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.

-Content that might be distressing should be kept behind NSFW tags.

...

If you see content that is a breach of the rules, please flag and report the comment and a moderator will take action where they can.


Also check out:

Partnered Communities:

1.Memes

2.Lemmy Review

3.Mildly Infuriating

4.Lemmy Be Wholesome

5.No Stupid Questions

6.You Should Know

7.Comedy Heaven

8.Credible Defense

9.Ten Forward

10.LinuxMemes (Linux themed memes)


Reach out to

All communities included on the sidebar are to be made in compliance with the instance rules. Striker

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 159 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Flaws:

  • fails to address leap years
  • fails to address 365th day
  • moon cycle will still slowly deviate
  • retains clunky 7-day week that doesn't interact will with decimal counting system

I like it, but I got an even better proposal. Weeks should have ten day weeks, and each month should have 3 weeks. summer/winter solstice and the spring/autumn equinox as well as new years day are special holidays that fall between months and interrupt the week cycle. In leap years, new years is two days.

The 1st, 11th and 21st of each month are now Mondays, so you can tell the weekday of any date. Months are the same length just like in Jesse's proposal, but an even 30 instead of a clunky 28.

I've thought about this a lot

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 91 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Congratulations, you've successfully reinvented the Egyptian civil calendar, complete with the intercalary holidays and all. Literally the only change is to add weeks. And yes, it did work really well, especially since the feast could add or lose a day to adjust to a known reference (the rise and fall of the Nile in their case). I second this proposal to go back.

[–] sirdorius@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago
[–] xenspidey@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Leap years and keep years

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

3-1-4-2 would work and give 70% work to 30% off - currently we have 71.4% work in a 7 day week so it's pretty similar with less friday burnout

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Should just be 3 2 3 2

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I like the 10 days week, but people, please rush to create a new religion to cover multiple free days or im out

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

every other day is labour day, and thus a holiday.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

The extra days of the week is called Lazyday, Chillsday, and Beersday.

It is forbidden to work on these days, the Lord commands it.

My religion has a holy day called I'm taking today off or I'll cut you

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Weeks should have ten day weeks

And instead of calling them "weeks", we could call them by the much more self-explanatory term "tendays".

summer/winter solstice and the spring/autumn equinox as well as new years day are special holidays that fall between months and interrupt the week cycle

You can simplify it a little bit by putting the intercalary days between months, rather than using them for the solstices. We can put Midwinter between January 30 and February 1 and Midsummer between July 30 and August 1, in the northern hemisphere.

For the sake of putting it in a more user-friendly location, our leap day should be in the summer for the northern hemisphere (where most of the population is). So put it the day after Midsummer.

The only thing I would do differently from the Calendar of Harptos is that, like you, I would use New Year's Day as the 5th annual intercalary day.

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Intercalary is one of those words I never expect to hear outside of the https://app.fantasy-calendar.com userbase

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, I've never heard of that site before, but I am definitely in its target market. Thanks for sharing!

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

You're very welcome! It's ultra useful for my dnd campaigns, I try to share it any chance I get

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the equinoxes and solstices are roughly 90 days apart anyway so we can do both :)

Calendar of Harptos actually influenced my post hehe

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

the equinoxes and solstices are roughly 90 days apart anyway so we can do both

Right, but my point was that we shouldn't use either equinoxes or solstices, because they occur around the 21st of their month at present. It's better to put the intercalary days in between months so that a single month doesn't get awkwardly split up.

[–] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

This is what I want! Fuck, this has it all! Its beautiful!

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The 365th day is new years day... duh.

And the leap day is just after new year

[–] bloup@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I do five day holiday for end of the year to account for the extra days like the Mayans did but I really like your idea of spreading four of them out to the solstices and equinoxes!

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Weeks should have ten day weeks, and each month should have 3 weeks.

Here's why I'm going to say no. It's because businesses would just rip us off by turning the working week into 8 days and just retaining the 2 day weekend.

No, and double no.

[–] demonquark@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

That’s very pessimistic. It assumes that there is a corporate led reform. Which is unlikely. If it was a grass roots campaign, the call for change would include a weekend proposal from the start. By the time businesses come around to supporting it, the weekend will alredy be defined as 3-work-2-off, or 7-work-3-off.

[–] enki@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Businesses don't have the power to do that if we collectively tell them no. But that being said, how DO you split up a 10-day week keeping the same basic ratio of "weekend" days?

Three weekdays, followed by a single "weekend" day or mid-week break, then four weekdays followed by a two-day weekend?

[–] xeekei@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

What names shall we give the new weekdays? Because I was thinking maybe we should rename a few existing ones, so no weekdays start with the same letters. Then they can be abbreviated to their respective first letters.

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I don't see why 7 day weeks are bad in regard to the number system. We rarely need to divide the days of the week into equal portions. Remembering 1, 8, 15 and 22 as mondays would be trivial after a while.

You also claim that failure to address the 365th day and leap years is an issue, but your proposal also includes several cycle-breaking days. So the same issue would persist.

Moon deviation isn't something I really worry about, but having a period which almost align with the cycle seems useful. It would be easy to just examine the initial phase within the month to chart out the rest of the month.

However, I think the biggest flaw is that the calendar would be divided into 13 equal parts, which sucks to divide into typical use cases, i.e. into 2 parts. You could split the 7th month, but it's not really elegant. Dividing the year into 3 or 4 parts would be a mess.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Any solution that has some form of "oh those days? Nah, we don't count those" is disqualified immediately in my book.

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

laughs in Egyptian...

They had 5 or 6 intercalary holidays to celebrate the new year and adjust to the rise of the Nile (and we'd adjust it to astronomical time with leap years). It actually worked really well, and kept the people happy with a 5-day rest and celebration each year (something this world could definitely use).

[–] Norgur@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They didn't have software though and you don't know if it either worked well (since the ppl who kept this system going were the same people who wrote about it) nor of it kept ppl happy. Besides: you can do that without the "not counting those" part, couldn't you?

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I think of it like the appendices of a book. The main story is counted with numbers, page 10, but the appendix is counted with Roman numerals, page X. While adding to the appendix increases the number of pages in the book, it does not change the length of the story.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

As a software developer, I would rather give up the 1.25 days off a year just to not have to work around some weird monthless and weekless date every year.

[–] SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Current workforce is schedule around a 7day centric week. It's far easier to reorganize where the weeks fall in the year than changing the structure of a week. Suddenly the workforce would have segment of work overlapping between weeks, it's an organizational nightmare.

The international fixed calendar did propose a solution for the 365 days and leap year but it's basically out-of-the-week holidays.

wdym? How is 10 more difficult than 7?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weeks should have a prime number of days. It’s not wise to be dividing weeks up.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Dec can be the month with 29 days and a 4 year leap day. That way all the nonsense is in one place.

Moon cycle doesn't matter.

7 day system is not clunky it is human.