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[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Anarchy and Communism are not the fucking same, what a retarded meme

To anyone offended, Go watch "The Ringer"

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have the same basic endgoal. Also stop using the r word.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a word describing a lack of mental capacity, get over it ya. You views are pure humbug

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey did you notice the "autism" in my name? Maybe I have more perspective to speak on what words are and aren't slurs against my group than you do fuckass.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

You just scratched a liberal! Comrade Amogus is on the case! sus-soviet

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

8m autistic too, what's your fucking point?

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Language evolves. "Mental removedation" is not longer recognized as as medical term, its use in modern times is generally regarded as a slur by the disability community and is treated as such in pretty much all communities that actively try to include neurodiverse people are oppose ableism.

So to answer the question of "ince wshen". The answer is "for at least a couple decades now". I was actually hit by my friend with a severely disabled brother for using it back in like 2006.

I am active in the disability rights movement and pretty much all of us that are agree the word is a slur and there is no excuse to be using it. Its not a "word for mental capacity" anymore and hasn't been in a long time. Plus, insinuating that mental disability is a BAD thing is ableist on its face.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Jesus fuck, people need to grow a spine. There are much more pressing matters to cry about. Half the fucking planet is on fire but no, let's cry about a word.

I grew up on the obese side, was made fun of for it my entire childhood. Do I get offended when I am called fat? No I laugh it off, because it's true. At some point it's better to not be offended all day

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We can can care about more than one thing at a time lol. Do you also think black people should just "get over" the n word because global warming exists? Or gay people with the f slur? Do you think that women should stop complaining about sexual harassment in the workplace because global warming exists? Those are often "just words" after all. I care deeply about global warming and want to do things about it, probably more than you do, but that doesn't mean I have to be ok with words meant to insult and attack me and people like me.

Idk if this rhetoric will work with you because you probably do think those things, at least about the slurs.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're arguing with a militant apathy enthusiast that wants to say edgy South Park tier shit and get no pushback from it, because they're allowed to be offended at others getting offended and that's the only offense allowed according to "nothing offends me" reddit-logo types.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

This wasn't about you till you made it about you, you were not the target of a slur. Now fuck off as we would prolly never get along and arguing about something stupid is pointless.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just stop being a weird hostile fuck when someone takes away your comfort slur shrug-outta-hecks

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Not a comfort, just how I talk. I grew up with retard meaning to be mentally slow or a stupid action. The offence y'all are taking is fucking retarded

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

I have internalized my own abuse to the point where i sound like a reactionary redditor and so should you

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

people need to grow a spine

You first.

Stop being a crybully because your edgy slurs aren't welcome here.

At some point it's better to not be offended all day

Except you are right in that post because you're not getting praised for your stale edgy slurs. Do you have any fucking self awareness at all, you reddit-logo brained crybully?

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

multiple things can matter at once

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Caring a whole lot about not caring and making sure no one cares too much is the definition of maturity for "nothing offends me" reddit-logo types.

[–] nekahat@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree. Not everyone has to be like you and people don't necessarily have to put up with harassment just because you would be ok with it yourself. I was also a fat kid and was made fun of. Do you think this would give me a free pass to publicly mock fat people, targeted or not? Also why would I be motivated to do so knowing it could possibly hurt someone?

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

And I disagree with you. You think Internet peeps are going to change my speech? I don't make fun of people because I know how it feels. I was making fun of a meme for being wholly incorrect. The only person who should take offence to my comment is the dummy who made the meme

And now you're pointing out that me letting someone know their work is incorrect as harassment? Seriously?

Seems like everyone in this thread is making a mountain out of a damn mole hill

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's pretty clear the user autism dragon has a spine, that's why they're telling you to back off instead of accepting you using a term they find hurtful

[–] Gelamzer@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

being spineless is when stand up for yourself galaxy-brain

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

You call being a full Karen having a spine? Lmfao

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Jesus fuck, people need to grow a spine.

Or maybe you just need to stop being a whiny little baby when somebody wants you to adjust your behavior the tiniest fucking bit.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stay classy with the slurs friendo

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When the fuck did a word to describe a state of someone's mental capacity or therefore lack of become a fucking slur? Pure humbug

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are you talking like Ebenezer Scrooge

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm bringing back slurs from the 1800's

[–] yokhai@lemmy.kya.moe 1 points 1 year ago

Let's not bring back any slurs, even if you're poorly attempting to recreate a joke from Clerks 2.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an anarchist-communist, to me they're pretty darn close.

Abolish capitalism, smash the State.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

That's like calling all meat eaters cannibals

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is overlap especially when you don't confuse communism as the broader framework with state communism or even worse soviet communism.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you read "On Authority" by Engels?

[–] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have, its a terrible "rebuttal" of anarchist criticism of marxism, conflating self-defence with authority.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is the thing though, until you abolish class contradictions states are the most effective way of protecting the revolution and suppressing the bourgeoisie. So authority does equal self defense in a real, meaningful way.

[–] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, since states can get couped. The most effective way of protecting the revolution is gathering the masses which can happen without the state, indeed, it has happened multiple time throughout history.

The most effective way of protecting the revolution is gathering the masses which can happen without the state, indeed, it has happened multiple time throughout history.

Could you point to examples?

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

And the fact that Engels wrote it proves that there were people in the movement even in those early days who disagreed.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have an idea of what a state is, but what's a "soviet"? That's not an English word.

What does "soviet" mean in Russian?

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know you're being cute but "soviet" is indeed a word in English: http://dict.org/bin/Dict


  Soviet
      adj 1: of or relating to or characteristic of the former Soviet
             Union or its people; "Soviet leaders"
      n 1: an elected governmental council in a communist country
           (especially one that is a member of the Union of Soviet
           Socialist Republics)

And it means what I intended it to mean, the official state ideology of the USSR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology_of_the_Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union

[–] maniacal_gaff@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Well to be clear, the "joke" is that the blue hat doesn't know the difference.

[–] ebenixo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

The meme isn't stating that they are.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good luck teaching that difference to the typical 'murican

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Let's get to work sweat

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is still overlap in the societal aspects, just not the governmental aspects. Mostly because anarchy has no government. That's the point. People can still choose to work together and basically create a communist society, without any enforcement from a government. Unlikely, but it's not impossible.