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[–] ewe@lemmy.world 164 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Every time I see these I see these climate change related issues (which is now multiple times a day), I get the same sinking feeling in my stomach like I'm behind on work and don't have enough time to do it and I'll soon be in trouble for letting things get too far behind. That feeling keeps me up, causes me stress, and is generally not a comfortable way to live. This just fucking sucks.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I hate to say it, but I keep avoiding articles about climate change for this reason. I can't do it every time, obviously, but it just gives me such stress. We're all so powerless while corporations destroy our planet.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Have you tried separating your recycling out? It'll help offset the cruise ships that each put out around 250,000 cars worth of straight up pollution a year, without factoring in other impacts.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago

Well thank fuck for that... I was worried for a moment there.

[–] vaultdweler13@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And thats just the cruise ships imagine how much cargo ships output, admitedly cargo ships actually serve a purpose. Cruise ships are idols to our decadence and hubris.

I dream of bloody knives and car bombs.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Praise our cargo ship overlords for bringing clothes that rip after the third wash and electronics that malfunction after half a year to us!

Joke aside, they are integral to the global economy, but we could cut back a lot on wasteful production and consumption, reducing the transportation needed.

[–] vaultdweler13@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Absolutely, food is one thing but cheap shitty tech is another. Frankly speaking ive never encountered a situation where the cheap shitty stuff was any better than the older expensive stuff.

But im also into weird old tech so the fact that ill use a beat up old car radio instead of a 10 buck radio from big lots is not saying much.

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[–] penguin@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

I largely tuned out of climate change news a long time ago. I still care about it. I vote for it and have donated relatively large amounts of money to environmental charities. But otherwise nothing I do makes a difference.

[–] gosling@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Don't be too harsh on yourself, big corporations are the main cause of climate change. Unless we all collectively decide to give these companies a wake up call, I'm afraid there's very little you can do alone

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Big corporations....that we keep rewarding with our money, incentivizing them to not change what they're doing. Human consumption is the largest driver of climate change.

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[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 30 points 1 year ago (9 children)

And the worst part is, average citizens like yourself aren't a massive burden on the environment. It's people like Elon Musk flying personal jets across the world for dinner, who are actively contributing to the death of the planet.

[–] golamas1999@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The jets are bad but what is worse are the handle full of billionaires and csuite execs who have the money and power to decide company policies and bribe politicians and governments: lobbying, independent expenditures, gala dinners, super pacs, incentives, revolving doors, private fundraising, paid speeches; to look the other way so they can pollute however much they want.

Nothing is Ethical under Capitalism.

Social Democracy is better but still exports the suffering to the global south.

Workers of the world must unite to over come the absolute insanity of the capital class.

And how are we supposed to do that? ~Strawberry

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unfortunately, everyone participates and it adds up. If you want to compare such personal consumption like jets, then the rich account for about 15% of the global emissions.

Here's a chart:

from this report: https://policy-practice.oxfam.org/resources/carbon-inequality-in-2030-per-capita-consumption-emissions-and-the-15c-goal-621305/

The share of total global emissions associated with the consumption of the richest 1% is set to continue to grow, from 13% in 1990, to 15% in 2015 and 16% in 2030.

If you want to include the rich's capital, which you should, because that has to change:

the bottom 50% of the world population emitted 12% of global emissions in 2019, whereas the top 10% emitted 48% of the total. Since 1990, the bottom 50% of the world population has been responsible for only 16% of all emissions growth, whereas the top 1% has been responsible for 23% of the total. While per-capita emissions of the global top 1% increased since 1990, emissions from low- and middle-income groups within rich countries declined. Contrary to the situation in 1990, 63% of the global inequality in individual emissions is now due to a gap between low and high emitters within countries rather than between countries. Finally, the bulk of total emissions from the global top 1% of the world population comes from their investments rather than from their consumption. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-022-00955-z

But if you imagine that the petite bourgeois lifestyle of McMansion in suburbia, cars and driving around everywhere, eating boatloads of primary calories, and the rest of the consumption isn't contributing, you should read more. Here's a start: https://www.versobooks.com/books/3691-the-imperial-mode-of-living

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[–] Monkeyhog@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really? The feeling I get when I read articles like this is a resigned feeling of "No shit, we've only been hearing warnings of this for the past 30 years. People are fucking stupid"

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There used to be plausible deniability. "Maybe it won't really be that bad, even though we should be acting in case it is."

Now it's more of a "I wonder where the various lines are and how many we've already crossed, which one will be next, and how soon we'll notice it."

Have you noticed the number of insects is way down this year? Maybe I'm wrong. They do still gather in the lights (which might be another part of the fucking problem...) but there just doesn't seem to be as many as there used to be this year.

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The irony is that if we did act as if it would be that bad, it wouldn’t be that bad because we would have mitigated the worst of it, and it’d become a laughing-stock for non-critical thinkers.

See also: Y2K…or more recently, comparing COVID death rates for vaccinated vs unvaccinated populations.

[–] Parallax@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

You can only do so much. Life was set up this way for us by countless generations before us. You can reduce your energy requirements, reduce/reuse/recycle, but it will only help so much at the individual level. Never stop trying. Never stop trying to convince your friends and family to reduce their footprint. I bug my SO every time they put something recyclable in the trash or they buy something we don't need.

But the world is burning because of greed and we can't individually put an end to that. Live your life, do what you can, share love. It's the best we can do right now.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The key is to learn to deal with your death anxiety.

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a lot easier said than done

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Magic mushrooms can help.

[–] lamprivate@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve just started to cut off feelings about it entirely - I can’t handle seeing this stuff everyday. I’m just resigned that it’s too late and live your life while you can.

[–] Art3sian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like to look on the bright side, in that climate change will either wipe humans off the map or send us back to the Stone Age so we no longer have any real impact.

Both scenarios will heal the planet, animals will re-populate, and homeostasis will again be restored. Checks and balances. We’ll just be another animal that that got out of control, which nature corrected, like it’s done thousands of times over with every animal that’s ever been out of control.

A healthy world. I like that outcome, with or without us.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't think you realize how much even stone age humans fucked up the planet. Half of Australia's forests were burned down and most of America's megafauna was hunted to extinction and the people who did it had little more than stone tools.

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