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From Spain here, when we want to speak about USA people we use the term "yankee" or "gringo" rather than "american" cause our americans arent from USA, that terms are correct or mean other things?

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[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 43 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Being from the USA, I can confidently say “Yankee” is a term that is fairly neutral in meaning. People from the South states use it to refer to basically any American not from the South, and I get the sense people from the UK use it to refer to anyone from the USA.

In my experience, “Gringo” seems to be a term used by Spanish-speakers (even ones from North and South America) to refer to English speakers who think they’re better than everyone, so it appears to be a term with negative connotations

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In my experience (as a Brit), people generally only refer to Americans as Yanks in a mildly pejorative way or if we're taking the piss, otherwise it's Americans.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Southerners are the same way. Nobody calls us yanks as a compliment

[–] temporal_spider@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Texan here. Yankee is definitely not a neutral word to refer to everyone from the USA. Some people down here will fight you over it, but most would just give you a confused look.

I've always understood gringo to mean white person, especially one who can't speak Spanish. The term is sometimes used in Mexican restaurants to let the staff know that you can't deal with too many jalapeños.

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Do Southerners use Yankee pejoratively to refer to northerners?

[–] temporal_spider@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

I'm afraid so. There are a lot of people still fighting our Civil War, the one that supposedly ended over 150 years ago. Even without those troglodytes, there is a distinct cultural difference between the North and South, as I think there is in many countries. We tend to rub each other the wrong way sometimes.

Old joke about the difference. Walk up to a Southerner's house, and they say, "can I help you?" Walk up to a Yankee's house, and it's, "whaddya want?"

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, since the civil war era.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or as my husband's Southern-ass grandma called it, the "war of northern agression" 🙄

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago

Reflexively I wanted to downvote that 😒

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i believe Brits call Americans "yanks"

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

U.K. bloke here…I don’t use it personally, just because, but yeah we say it for anyone from the USA.

When I was about 10 or so someone local to me had a lawsuit because his colleagues called him Yankee and he claimed it was racism, fairly certain he won, but it was an obscure case.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

In America, yankee means people from a particular part of America. But we use it here in Australia to mean any American. It's especially fun when people from the south (that is…the south of the country America, not from the continent of South America) take offence at the term IMO.

We also use "seppo" which is an Australian shortening slang of "septic", which is rhyming slang (of the kind used in both Australia and London, England) that comes via "septic tank" via "yank".

Gringo seems strange to me. I thought that was a predominantly Latin American term for white people, and would apply equally well to Americans as Canadians as Australians as (of particular relevance to someone from Spain) English…but only the white of each, so it would seem to me it shouldn't work as synonymous with "American" because it excludes African Americans, Asian Americans, etc. But I'm not Spanish or Latin American, so I might just be misunderstanding the word.

Edit: what yank means depending on where you are (allegedly):

[–] FloMo@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hispanic here, I grew up using “gringo” specifically for people from the U.S. despite skin tone.

Canadians are “Canadiense”, English are “Ingles” but United States? “Estadounidense”? It’s sort of like saying “United Statian” but arguably more “correct/proper”

Gringo is just much faster/easier to say.

That being said this can vary a little from one Latin-American country to another.

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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Seppo, septic tank, yank. Love it! Cockney rhyming slang strikes again?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

Australian rhyming slang in this case, but yeah, it functions in much the same way as Cockney.

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[–] meliante@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Burros como o caralho is Portuguese for USAians.

It translates to something like dumb as fuck.

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 24 points 2 weeks ago

Dumbfuckistan has a certain ring to it when you put it that way.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just say "idiots." Source: USA citizen.

[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 9 points 2 weeks ago

No no, he has a point...

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] TurtleOnASkateboard@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] TurtleOnASkateboard@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

It's a weird lacuna of the English language, there's no official word for estadounidense.

[–] thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In Italian we have an equivalent, Statunitensi, but Americani is probably used more often to mean the same thing

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[–] redrumBot@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I prefer the formal name in spanish of estadounidense (united-statistian) to American.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Being a native, a Yankee to me is a New Englander. My Spanish friend had to gently explain to me, “shut up, you’re all yanquis.”

[–] janNatan@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Being a native from The South, "Yankee" to me means anybody from the area above the Mason Dixon line. Full disclosure, I'm not proud to be from The South. However, I do find many Yankees to be at least a little bit strange. So, the designation stands in my head.

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[–] estefanoscopica@thelemmy.club 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

In Brazil, we use USians or Statesians

I used the second one on an academic paper and it went through.

I NEVER use "American", because

America no es solo USA, papá esto es desde el Tierra del Fuego hasta el Canada

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

we call them "estadunidense" which roughly translates to "usian". usians tend not to like it.

but, like, you call yourself after the entire continent, am i supposed to take it seriously?

[–] quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm USAian. (just identifying for this thread, i don't call myself that)

would "gringo" include Black USAians? Asian USAians? Spain-born USAians?

from my understanding of "gringo", that doesn't seem to include non-white USAians. Most English monolingual USAians think that means "white guy".

a lot of gen z USAians might not know the word Yankee as a term for USAians. if speaking to them, you might have to explain it's not the baseball team.

maybe it's better to stick with "USAians". it's never been used but it's easy to figure out. other possible choices are:

  • Statesians
  • USAliens
  • USAmericans
  • Staters
  • Stater Tots (re: tater tots)
  • USticles

better yet, call each of us by the state we're each from. that's the safest bet. you know all our 50 state names right? and their official demonyms? 🤣 kidding

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, reading this comment is really just reinforcing for me why we say American. Reading "USAien" over and over again hurts my head.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

In the USA, Yankee refers to mainly northeast US, including the New York City area. Western Americans would be neutral about being called that and you might piss off some southerners.

My exposure to the term gringo has mainly been that it refers to white Americans. I don't know if you would call a black American gringo or how they would accept it.

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[–] Alice@beehaw.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Not too sure about gringo but I know yankee is correct, I hear that one a lot from folks I know in the UK.

There's some weird linguistic drift where in the southern US, we call northerners yankees, even though in the rest of the world we're all yankees. Now I'm curious how that started.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That Southern US usage dates back to at least the US civil war in the 1860s.

But yankee was used to refer to at least some people in what is now the US as early as the 1660s.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee

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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Unfortunately the USAians are so dominant in the region of the Americas that they've coopted the term American for most people. My Columbian friend hates when we refer to USAians as Americans because he says "hey we were here first" 😆. But unfortunately that's the way it is.

Yanks or Yankee Doodles is what we used to call them but they get rather upset these days when you call them that. I wouldn't call them gringos because it just sounds unnatural for a Brit to say that seriously.

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

I like to look at it this way. The full name of Mexico is the United States of Mexico. But we still call them Mexicans.

It’s totally okay to call people from the United States of America as Americans. Everyone knows what you mean anyways.

[–] Shialac@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

German here, most of the time I say "US-American"

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m in Texas, so there is a lot of Mexican cultural exchange. Spanish was practically a second language in my public schools, and most people speak at least a little bit of spanglish.

When a Mexican calls an American a gringo, they’re not being nice. “Gringo” is typically used as a pejorative, to refer to a specific type of “mayo is too spicy and I’m afraid of people who have melatonin” white people.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 6 points 2 weeks ago

Call them murican. Everyone gets it, even the usa-ians

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

You can say USAmerican or US (as an adjective, e.g. US government) as a neutral demonym. "Yankee" and "gringo" have pejorative connotations, although I'm not Latin American so I don't know what the connotations are among LatAm Spanish speakers. Also, my understanding of the word "gringo" as someone who lives in neither of the Americas is that it refers to specifically white people, not USAmericans in general. I'm not sure if I've understood the usage of the term correctly, but if other people have the same understanding, they may get confused if you call eg a Black USAmerican a gringo.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gringo and yankee are both fine. However, it's most correct to refer to people from the USA by their birth state.

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or where they currently live.

Or, the case of NYC Puerto Ricans, both (New Yorican lol)

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[–] juli@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yankistani.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This probably isn’t helpful for referring to all Americans but in the U.S., we use whatever state/regjon within the United States a person is from as the demonym. So, someone from California would be Californian, someone from Texas would be Texan. For a regional example, someone from the Northeast would be a New Englander.

For most of the history of the Republic, the states viewed themselves sort of like EU countries do now: independent states in America that united. It probably wasn’t until the World Wars that it changed.

It can get more complicated, unfortunately. Native Americans would probably use their tribal name instead of the state, for instance. But that’s why we don’t have a demonym and everyone has resorted to USian or USAian on message boards.

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