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The bitter fight between Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and Rep. Byron Donalds over a line about slavery in the state’s revised African American history standards is infuriating several prominent Black conservatives.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 206 points 1 year ago (31 children)

I don’t understand black republicans at all. It’s just as crazy as gay or trans republicans- I wanna be like “dude, your party fucking hates you”. How do they not see it?

[–] hamster@kbin.social 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's just as crazy as poor republicans, but here we are.

[–] Default_Defect@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The poor ones think they're one Repub presidency away from all being richer, but those GOT DAM DEMONRATS keep ruining it for em.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

A shame they can't afford a decent education, and choose instead to slander and libel the entire institution when it criticizes their bs

[–] krayj@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Any persecuted minority group who are republicans is just absolutely baffling to me…best I can come up with is that it’s god-level Stockholm syndrome.

[–] Mswomanofacertainage@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I work for a company that is union. And the majority of the union members are Republicans. WTF?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

They don't support it, but "I gotta get mine" is very on brand.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

The republican party is the party of single issue voters. I'd bet a large majority of their base wouldn't vote for them if they didn't support their one wedge issue that they won't budge on for anything. It lets people excuse a lot of bullshit if they can just propel their personal cause forward.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There were Jewish Nazis too.

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

crazy

That's the key word, right there. In South Carolina, both Nikki Haley and Tim Scott of the GOP want to be president. One is a second generation American woman of SE Asian descent, and the other is an African American man.

To me there's nothing wrong with any of that, but then again I'm not a Republican. And that is the core of the issue. They literally think they are personally somehow exempt from the basic tenets of their party.

Neither will win, both are completely fucking deluded about what drives their constituents and overlords, even as they both imagine that they actually have a lasting and meaningful seat at that table, and both are likely to be in actual physical danger whenever fascism reaches full bloom and the real knives come out.

The Log Cabin Republicans, as crazy and self-deluded as they are, ain't got nuthin' on these two.

If I could read either or both of them an informative bedtime story, one that would help them understand what is coming, their place in it, how that makes their beliefs an untenable dilemma, and how to frame their political decisions going forward, it would be a tale about the life and death of Ernst Röhm, an openly gay Nazi who also operated under a very similar delusion . . . until he was forcibly disabused of it, which was coincidentally the last night of his life. And Röhm was just gay, something right-wingers think is a choice that can be changed, not a skin color or gender that can't be. The GOP will use anyone, until they don't.

But then again, I probably wouldn't waste my breath, because crazy.

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[–] june@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Several told POLITICO they fear the issue will play into Democrats’ characterization of Republicans as favoring a whitewashing of American history.

lmao. calling it a 'characterization' like it's not true

Many Black Republicans find themselves in a quandary: on the one hand having to push back on perceptions that slavery has positive attributes, but also fighting the perception that if they voice criticism, it leads to questions of whether they are sufficiently conservative.

Harrison Fields, Donalds’ spokesperson, captured this in a tweet. “If you condemn CRT & refuse to support BLM, black Republicans are called a coon, sellouts, & Uncle Clarence. If you vocalize minor distaste with a sentence in a curriculum that lauds skills developed by slaves during slavery, black Republicans are called Democrats and frauds,” he said.

i don't understand how they can understand this but not the fact that their political affiliation is a cult.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] TheHighRoad@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

So very, very close to grasping their error...

[–] ech@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Several told POLITICO they fear the issue will play into Democrats’ characterization of Republicans as favoring a whitewashing of American history.

lmao. calling it a 'characterization' like it's not true

Seriously. CRT bullshit was the clarion call of the Republican party for the last few years. Are they claiming that was just satire or something? And Confederate apologetics has been a key Republican talking point for decades now. I wonder how they feel about all the gnashing of teeth over statues of racist shitheads getting taken down.

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[–] Devious_Thoughts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I love how black conservatives are like, "I can't believe we're talking about whether slavery was good in 2023."

Like mf, that's all you fucking conservatives do, "How can we say that this shit behavior, was good?"

[–] 2ez@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do y'all think they're trying to conserve??

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminds me of that Goose meme, 'States rights for what motherfucker?!'

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[–] Veraxus@kbin.social 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Why are these leopards eating our faces!?”

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

In other words, they never thought leopards would come for their faces like they did their ancestors.

[–] snowgrimm@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is just comedy gold. Like, Republicans have been spending time slashing down voters rights for BLACK PEOPLE and here we are knowing that there are black Republicans. Like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My mom's an East Asian Republican because she's a diehard fundamentalist evangelical pre-tribulation Biblical-literalist protestant Christian and thinks Trump was sent from God to save us from the devil's minions. Ignoring the fact that Trump has committed practically every sin in the book with "all have sinned".

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you are to ask people on Reddit and Lemmy, you'd think these people didn't even exist.

Always understimating the reach of the Republican party. There are black Republicans, as well as Asian and Indian ones. Hispanic Republicans as well. But certain communities online want to continue the stereotype that the GOP is only made up of old white men.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Call them woke, Ron. Please call them woke. I want to see this drag out. I'm making popcorn.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

We can only hope someone calls him a cuck for not calling them woke, and let the circular firing squad begin

[–] Azal@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Several told POLITICO they fear the issue will play into Democrats’ characterization of Republicans as favoring a whitewashing of American history. Most saw it as an unforced error at the time when Black Republicans feel they’ve been making significant strides within the party."

So VERY close to being self-aware, and yet so far.

[–] Arcane_Trixster@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

They should ask the log-cabin Republicans how included they feel.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Gotta be a special kind of dumb to be a black conservative.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I assume they do it for the grift. Kinda like all republicans or most politicians, really.

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[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

TIL - There are black Republicans.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Clarence Thomas wasn't a Dem nomination for SCOTUS.

[–] Treatyoself@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Oh yes. One of our senators is a black republican AND running for president. He seems like the nicest guy but so fucking stupid. Tim Scott.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The black conservatives party needs to rebrand to the black face eating leopards party.

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[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Several told POLITICO they fear the issue will play into Democrats’ characterization of Republicans as favoring a whitewashing of American history. Most saw it as an unforced error at the time when Black Republicans feel they’ve been making significant strides within the party.

“It raises eyebrows,” said Diante Johnson, president of the Black Conservative Federation, who is supporting Donald Trump’s presidential campaign. “Ron DeSantis is not the candidate for Black conservatives and that’s what [he] constantly, constantly exhibits to us.”

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

...but he supports trumps campaign. They make my brain hurt.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Funny, cause the guy who is responsible for that exact line is a black conservative.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's my version I just made

First they came for the trans kids, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trans kid.

Then they came for all LGBTQ and women, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was neither.

Then they came for the POC, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a person of color.

Then they came for me, a non-believer —and there was no one left to speak for me.
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

See, my theory is that the black guys will still be getting the short end of the stick in the US long after the trans and gay stuff is forgotten and normalised.

And the reason I think this is simple. No middle class white republican voters ever got sat down by their teenage kids, only to hear "Mom, dad. I think I might be black..."

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I Blame my mother for turning me into a black baby - Tupac

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[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

!leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

But I tell you, if you're having a problem figuring out whether you're for me or for Trump, you ain't black.

  • Joe R. "Dark Brandon" Biden Jr.
[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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