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The bitter fight between Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and Rep. Byron Donalds over a line about slavery in the state’s revised African American history standards is infuriating several prominent Black conservatives.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 206 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I don’t understand black republicans at all. It’s just as crazy as gay or trans republicans- I wanna be like “dude, your party fucking hates you”. How do they not see it?

[–] hamster@kbin.social 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's just as crazy as poor republicans, but here we are.

[–] Default_Defect@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The poor ones think they're one Repub presidency away from all being richer, but those GOT DAM DEMONRATS keep ruining it for em.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

A shame they can't afford a decent education, and choose instead to slander and libel the entire institution when it criticizes their bs

[–] krayj@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Any persecuted minority group who are republicans is just absolutely baffling to me…best I can come up with is that it’s god-level Stockholm syndrome.

[–] Mswomanofacertainage@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I work for a company that is union. And the majority of the union members are Republicans. WTF?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

They don't support it, but "I gotta get mine" is very on brand.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

The republican party is the party of single issue voters. I'd bet a large majority of their base wouldn't vote for them if they didn't support their one wedge issue that they won't budge on for anything. It lets people excuse a lot of bullshit if they can just propel their personal cause forward.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don’t understand that either.

[–] steakmeout@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

More than you would think. They believed that they weren't the problem Jews, it was those ones coming in from Eastern Europe. Hitler couldn't possibly be talking about them.

Same deal here.

[–] funkless@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Hitler wasn't Aryan. There's no instances of extreme right-wing ideology that make sense. Never was nor will there ever be

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

crazy

That's the key word, right there. In South Carolina, both Nikki Haley and Tim Scott of the GOP want to be president. One is a second generation American woman of SE Asian descent, and the other is an African American man.

To me there's nothing wrong with any of that, but then again I'm not a Republican. And that is the core of the issue. They literally think they are personally somehow exempt from the basic tenets of their party.

Neither will win, both are completely fucking deluded about what drives their constituents and overlords, even as they both imagine that they actually have a lasting and meaningful seat at that table, and both are likely to be in actual physical danger whenever fascism reaches full bloom and the real knives come out.

The Log Cabin Republicans, as crazy and self-deluded as they are, ain't got nuthin' on these two.

If I could read either or both of them an informative bedtime story, one that would help them understand what is coming, their place in it, how that makes their beliefs an untenable dilemma, and how to frame their political decisions going forward, it would be a tale about the life and death of Ernst Röhm, an openly gay Nazi who also operated under a very similar delusion . . . until he was forcibly disabused of it, which was coincidentally the last night of his life. And Röhm was just gay, something right-wingers think is a choice that can be changed, not a skin color or gender that can't be. The GOP will use anyone, until they don't.

But then again, I probably wouldn't waste my breath, because crazy.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neither will win, both are completely fucking deluded about what drives their constituents and overlords, even as they both imagine that they actually have a lasting and meaningful seat at that table, and both are likely to be in actual physical danger whenever fascism reaches full bloom and the real knives come out.

I don't they understand just how difficult it would be for them to win. Enough people will sit out the election who would vote otherwise because the candidate is nonwhite or a woman.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is absolutely true, but the problem is that both of them won lesser state elections and think that means far more than it does.

Nikki Haley was governor of South Carolina prior to joining Trump's administration, and Tim Scott is a South Carolina state senator, so they both believe that means the GOP is inclusive and will let one of them have the top job.

Heh, NO. You are so right.

What they don't understand is that every "real boss" (the president, and of course a white male) needs secretaries and janitors and people who can raise cash for the party. That is what state politicians are to the Republican party, so the GOP doesn't mind letting women and people of color win locally, because it keeps the constituents happy and the façade of inclusivity intact.

But the top job, or anywhere near it? Absolutely not. Look how they lost their collective minds when Barack Obama, a demonstrably capable (and IMO excellent) leader was elected. The shrieking and hood gathering in response hasn't stopped yet.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

Cuz they hate each other too

[–] Sho@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I have this same issue, its baffling to say the least.

[–] dub@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Just as long as they get to hate someone too

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's a form of masochism? Maybe they miss the hatred and "wish you didn't exist" they got from their parents?