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Valve dev says SteamOS isn't about killing Windows: 'If a user has a good experience on Windows, there's no problem' (www.pcgamer.com)

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

"If"

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

It's easy to understate what an unusual project SteamOS is. It represents over a dozen years of work from some of the industry's finest, is funded by a private company, yet is open source and free for everyone to use. "I'm pretty happy that we've managed to find a balance that's beneficial to everyone, while still being able to help this PC ecosystem in this way," says Griffais. "I'm really happy about that."

I can't wait to try it

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Killing windows would just be a little happy accident

[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

The way that's worded implies that the only way it can hurt Windows is if Windows sucks. Subtle and true. Do better Microsoft. Or don't. We don't care, we're just doing our own thing.

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Microsoft wants all future apps to go through their store. Basically like Apple does in Mac [ appears you can ]. I do believe this is the future for Windows apps. Once that happens, Valve running on Windows will be second fiddle. Valve's only choice is to migrate to another OS or end up like Mozilla.

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Thought Mac store was required. Guess not.

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Holy misinformation Batman! You don’t have to use the App store for anything on MacOS. Matter of fact many popular apps are not found in the AppStore at all.

iPhone and iPad may be walled gardens but I’ll go out on a limb here and say that MacOS is actually more open than Windows or at the very least it’s as open.

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago

They'll never be able to force that.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

That's cheeky.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

good experience on Windows

Windows 7 was the last time I had that experience lol

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

The killing is more a side effect than the actual goal. Got it.

[–] ThermonuclearCactus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago

I've finally banished Windows to a virtual machine, and am gearing up to fistfight Easy: ~~Anti-cheat~~ Rootkit AKA Fucking piece of shit that does precisely fuck-all to stop cheating despite having access to kernel space in order to get Sea of Thieves working on my virtual machine.

[–] qx128@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Shots fired!

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 0 points 4 days ago

In other words, git gud scrub

[+] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world -6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It is hilarious to me that Lemmy users, who seem to mostly be obsessed with Linux (borderline Arch users except slightly less annoying about it), talk like Windows is such a massively hated OS when it is literally still the most widely distributed and used OS in the world. Like yes, so many people globally hate Windows which is why everyone keeps using Windows and not switching to something they hate less. Of course.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are a tremendous number of people out there who do dislike Windows, but have no idea what to do about it. They see their computer's operating system as an intrinsic part of it kind of how iOS is kind of immutably baked into an iPhone. They don't really have a grasp on what an operating system is or how to install one, and even if told they'd be paralyzed with fear over the risk of breaking something.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You described me pretty well.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And you're not alone, in fact I would guess you're part of the majority. But we tend to live in bubbles surrounded by tech savvy people so we forget about it sometimes. And the problem with not knowing something is possible is not realizing its limitations, someone who's eaten hot dogs every day of their life has no idea what a burguer is, is one intrinsically better than the other? Nope, but they're different, and different people might like different things.

In any case, just like the other comment, if you have any questions feel free to ask, there's a thriving community of people who use Linux and some of us were like you so we know where you're coming from.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Know what, I just might get a few questions together and ask them in one of the Linux subs.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Well, if you would like to learn about and explore Linux as an alternative to Windows, I would be glad to answer any questions you have. I've been using Linux as my main or only operating system for all of my work and play for 12 years now.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Switching costs. It's the same reason people keep using Facebook and X despite the fact both are widely hated.

If Linux was the dominant OS preinstalled on the majority of computers almost nobody would make the effort to install Windows.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago

Actually the most widely used OS worldwide is Android. Nearly ½ of all devices are Android while only ¼ of all devices are Windows.

Now if you want to adjust the scope and only look at "desktop" operating systems then yes, that is the majority. However over the past 10 years Windows has declined by ~15%, the majority going to macOS, but a small percentage going to Linux. Linux is generally on the rise, albeit slowly.

Also keep in mind the data I've referenced above applies to ALL devices. The landscape changes dramatically when you look at console vs "PC" gaming. Console gaming is roughly ~60% of the traditional gaming market. So while a Windows user may not become a Linux user, they may disappear and become a console user, decreasing the number of Windows users.

While I fully expect Windows to be around for a while, unless a change is made it will continue to lose market share. It would be a mistake to look at these numbers and think Windows is safe and beloved. By all metrics Windows is going away. It's not going to happen overnight, but 10 years from now?