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Donald Trump would have been convicted over 2020 election, special counsel report says
(www.theguardian.com)
You had 4 years. 4 years.
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Yeah, that's just a lame excuse. It just conveniently took too long, ah shucks, if only he hadn't won, gosh darnit.
We have to distinguish between Jack Smith who started in 2022, and was extremely unlucky with respect to court decisions, and Garland who wasted 2 years before appointing Smith.
canon delayed it, not smith. did everyone forget about all that?
Exactly. Corruption is what made it take so long, not the prosecutor.
did everyone forget about all that?
Well, yeah. There's too much stuff going on deliberately to keep track of everything and remember the details months or years after the fact.
Blame Garland
Blame Garland
And Biden, and democrats in congress for not pushing to fucking get it done for 2 years.
And Pelosi for preventing any action and protecting Trump while he was president, and she was majority leader.
And Mueller for making a mockery of the special investigation, dragging it out for years, and then having done just about the narrowest investigation possible, and letting traitors walk despite clear evidence.
It's fucking incompetence all the way through, to a degree it must be perceived as maliciousness, and that both parties are in on it.
Goddam I'm happy to live in a country that doesn't effectively have a 2 party system. I cannot fathom how Americans tolerate their idiotic flawed democracy for almost 250 years now! Isn't it about time to modernize? And yet American politicians boast of their democracy and claim to protect democracy around the world, when they fucking can't even figure it out for their own country!
They say the US justice system moves slowly, but this is incredibly slow. I'm not an American, but if I was I would be very disappointed.
You can still be disappointed.
Sure. I can, but I can't vote in the US so I find that spending my emotional energy on that has fairly limited effects.
I still find it sad that we live in a world where a large amount of people praise felons
It's not great, is it
Even if you could vote, our system is designed to prevent your vote from having an impact in multiple ways. Fuck this country.
I mean, yeah, lets not even get into your weird way of weighing votes and then throwing the actual decision to a panel. You've got some work to do on that democratic aspect too. As a nation, I mean.
Investigations of Trump reliably conclude just after it becomes impossible for them to have any effect on him. It feels a little deliberate on the part of both Republicans and Democrats.
Looking in from the outside I don't think that's what's happening. It's just the US legal system being very pliable if you have enough capital. Which isn't great.
Democrats: Takes forever to get around to doing what they need to do until it's last minute. The last minute passes them, they're throwing a fit about it.
Republicans: Starts pulling strings and tapping connections to throw as much shit around as possible and orchestrate theater to pad the time it takes.
It's only slow for some. For others it's fast.
I am very disappointed.
Well that sucks. Harris winning would have been nice.
But don't you understand? The genocide totally would've been worse or even the same. Something something duopoly! /s
Edit: to be clear, if you argued against voting for Harris, this is partially your fault. And I'm done with you. Write me a shitty reply here to be added to the blocklist. I'm all out of patience for your types.
To be clear, I agree with you. However, I've been saying that the Trump Campaign didn't win this election, the Democratic Party lost it. The Trump campaign was a fucking mess. Trump rallies sucked. Their policies sucked, and I don't mean they were evil, I mean when you polled people, objectively, virtually every major policy the Democrats held polled better than anything the Republicans did.
The major difference was that the Democratic Party gave people the impression that they cared about propriety and institutions more than they did about normal people or even winning the election. They tried so hard to seem normal that nobody believed them when they talked about the threat posed by Republicans, and how can you blame people? If you were facing an apocalyptic threat, you would be fighting, not issuing high-minded press releases and carefully-worded and narrowly-defined policy papers.
Harris didn't run a totally garbage campaign, but when Trump and the Republicans were in full rabid dog mode and the Democrats couldn't figure out how to get past the tut-tut stage, it was never going to work.
Congratulations to the American people, for having the guts to elect a crazy criminal malignant narcissist idiot for president.
I doubt many places would have the guts to do that.
To be entirely honest, this makes me doubt we will make it as a species.
Congratulations to the American people, for having the guts to elect a crazy criminal malignant narcissist idiot for president.
Twice!
To be entirely honest, this makes me doubt we will make it as a species.
On election day when he didn't lose by a landslide I had the same thought even before all the results were in. The level of idiotic selfish spitefulness required to keep him from losing by a country mile after all that's happened is absurd.
IDK why you are downvoted, maybe it's the double negative?
But just to make it clear, keep from losing = winning.
So corrected for double negative:
The level of idiotic selfish spitefulness required for him to win..
And yes I agree completely, it's insane he even had a chance, and it says a LOT about the American society as a whole is mentally ill.
Not everybody, but enough to make it a systemic problem throughout everything in society. It must be hell to live in USA as a normal person!
Thanks, yeah I'm not sure. Maybe my wording is confusing.. it's early here. And I'm pissed. I don't want to live in a world where a person is rewarded heartily for being all the horrible shitty things we were all taught not to be. It almost feels like morality was invented to keep everyone from having the balls to lash out against these absolute sociopath types.
Americans are indoctrinated with values of individual freedom to a degree where Malignant narcissism has become a virtue, and it shows throughout all aspects of society.
Everything that benefit common good is demonized. Like food stamps, social welfare, healthcare for all, protection of minorities, lack of union rights, insane gun rights, and abolishing free abortion, and even sex education.
It's in everything American in society, and USA is so far removed from other developed countries it's more like a very poor developing country in many aspects.
It's all about oppressing the non privileged, to give more privileges to the already privileged.
Now people are even getting away with claiming slavery wasn't so bad!!
You're right. It's sold as "believe X if you like freedom" when the reality is "believe X to keep the rich's boot on your neck, necessarily decreasing freedom". It's not a freedom for your kid to die by a school shooter, but somehow millions believe it is.
Looks like you also got a downvote for your helpful reply for whatever reason. How people vote on this site is one of those things I'll never understand.
Yes but the post I responded to completely turned around. So that's fine for me. Probably someone thought my comment wasn't necessary, but obviously it was for some, since it changed the voting both instantly and completely.
Can they impeach him once he's in office?
If the dems manage to take back congress in 2 years I wouldn't be surprised if he's bogged down in impeachment proceedings for the rest of his term.
Also out of interest, can private citizens take forward the prosecution? The justice department is being stopped for political reasons but is there anything to stop a private citizens group or organisation taking forward the prosecution based on the evidence noted in the report?
Impeachment number three would be wild, but let's be realistic. It's gonna happen, anyway.
Charlie Murphy coined it best: habitual line stepper
They would have convicted him and then done what to teflon Don?
Well obviously Trump belongs in jail. And if they followed the law, he would be.
Hand me some of the cope this is good stuff