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For the past two years, Donald Trump has spread fear about the state of the United States and championed himself as the only man capable of saving the country from itself. Only he could bring down the price of groceries and gas. Only he could fix the broken health care system. Only he could fix the broken immigration system. Only he could end the wars in Ukraine and in the Middle East.

Now that the voters have drunk the Kool-Aid, the jig is up. The grift is over and the prize of the presidency is won. But will the buyers of the golden sneakers have buyer’s remorse? I suspect that for all but the most cult-following MAGA lemmings, the answer to that question is yes.

Despite two years of constant finger-pointing at the Biden administration for rising grocery prices that were actually decreasing during that time, since the election, Trump has gone dead silent on the issue of working class cost of living issues. His only comment on grocery prices was during his interview with Time magazine for his man of the year article in which he admitted that there isn’t much he can do to bring grocery prices back down to the levels of 2019. Economically, the only thing that will do that is a strong recession that no one wants. He has said virtually nothing about the cost of gasoline, in large part because the prices were already falling to four-year lows before the election and have continued to fall since.

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 6 points 24 minutes ago

Despite two years of constant finger-pointing at the Biden administration for rising grocery prices that were actually decreasing during that time

The prices have not been decreasing, the rate of increase has been decreasing. But grocery prices were and are still going up. Source: the article you linked.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He spent his entire campaign saying how expensive things were and his plan to fix is was to raise prices on everything. Not sure what they were expecting.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago

They'll make it up when the vast majority get those sweet income tax raises.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago

"How could we predict he'd betray us like that?" says people who've spent literal decades watching person in question be incredibly dishonest and slef-serving

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 18 points 2 hours ago

I mean, no surprise. All of his policies last time were for the wealthy. But more importantly, all of the things Elan is planning to cut are going to hurt the poor and they didn't say they were going to give any of that money to people, just that they were going to cut the deficit. If running the country like a business, you never cut income, even if you cut expenses. Businesses with monopolies keep the profits from reduced expenses, not pass them on to customers, that would be dumb.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social -1 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

Not a fan of Donald Trump but I’m tired of these headlines that suggest he hasn’t done anything as president… my main reason for this is he is not president yet…. I think we are on a rocky road but come on now stop trying to foreshadow.

We could also have alien visitors from outer space and they think Trump is the leader of humanity which would be much worse 👀

Instead let’s criticize republican congress for already trying to pass legislation exempting Netanyahu for war crimes, or legislation exempting corporations etc the first two bills they’ve voted on

[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 63 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Too bad he can't go silent permanently.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 22 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Another Mangione could help

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

TBH I don't think Mangione did any good, but if Ryan Wesley Routh or Thomas Matthew Crooks had landed their shots then we'd be talking.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

He can and he will. He will go away forever one day.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

There are ways to hurry that along.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

They tried a few times already

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ReanuKeeves@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

And how many people do you think are in line to be the face of the same idealogy? Our society is made by, made for and rewards sociopathy. There is no bright future until we start looking at these issues that start in childhood. Kids are being raised thinking if they bully everyone in their path then they can be the president. How about we start teaching kids that increasing quality of life for future generations so they can flourish and make more advancements is a much better idea than being a massive piece of orange colored shit.

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The one saving grace is that Trump's whole thing has been a cult of personality, and nobody else in the MAGA movement has been nearly on his level in that regard. There's a good chance the whole thing falls apart without him.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Agreed. He unites the whackos.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I understand what you are saying, but that's the way it has always been. This is not new.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Thing is, we are now seeing where that approach will always lead. The ideology of "you need to fight everyone else for your piece of the pie, and theirs too if you can get it" has created immense suffering in American society. It has only been like this for the relatively short time that the American ideology has been teaching people this. It can be changed, and in my more optimistic moments I'd see we're seeing early signs of a change even now.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

. It has only been like this for the relatively short time that the American ideology has been teaching people this

Dude, that's a crazy take to say it's only a recent thing when owning another human being used to be a thing. This country was founded on stealing shit from others who cannot defend themselves.

It's not new. It's something to address, yes. We need to change it, but it's not new.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

Sorry, I meant that in the course of human history it's not new, though this attitude has always been present in the relatively young history of the USA. I was trying to be optimistic that it can be changed, even if it's hard to see how right now.

[–] ReanuKeeves@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Hey man, people used to sacrifice virgins to the sun god for a better harvest. It was once normal to consider women as less than men. We had separate water fountains, bathrooms, bus seats for different races. Progress is about progressing. It doesn't matter how long people have been stupid, the point is to always improve, not stagnate or reverse.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I agree that stepping backwards is not ideal, but I do believe that there will never be a straight path to utopia. There is going to be some struggle from those who have to give up privilege along the way. Large ships don't turn very quick, but as long as they are headed in the right direction, that's all that matters. Although it may seem we aren't headed in the right direction, in the grand scheme of things, I believe that we have the ability to bear in the correct direction.

[–] ReanuKeeves@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There is no utopia because everyone's biological soup is different. Best we can do is utilitarianism and voting in a literal criminal isn't a small step back, that's a taco bell beer shit on progression

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

There's a bigger picture

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Awwww..........

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Here is my well reasoned and thoughtful response:

Duh.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 hour ago

With peace and love: All the comments saying this should reconsider next time. Saying “duh” to oppression normalizes oppression.

The worst most bigoted most bootlicking red-voting person you know is happy chatting about the evil that is H1Bs and how we are annexing Greenland and Panama right now. They need to hear that the person they voted in has dropped his support for helping them through their struggles to feed themselves.

Generally, we are all saying “duh” to the wrong things. All the top comments here are “duh” while no one yada yada’d the Greenland annexation theatrics.

Again I am being blunt so no hate to you specifically, you are just the top comment representing a larger pattern.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

If Americans suddenly realize they've been taken for fools, that's why they have their precious 2nd Amendment.

They always bring it up when the issue of gun control comes up for any reason, but they never actually use the 2nd Amendment for what it was original intended, incl. removing dangerous leaders. Trump is the first true, crystal-clear use case.

That must mean most Americans still haven't understood they've been took, or they really dig fascism even at their own expense.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Hey!!! Whoa!!! That's not fair at all!

......you forgot about that guy on the roof in PA who missed by inches.

[–] Bacano@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Did we ever learn anything about that guy? It seemed like a huge unsolved mystery.

The media machine didn't wanna stay on that one though, I imagine cause they didn't wanna give people ideas. Another attempt happened a little later but it was even less successful.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (4 children)

you forgot about that guy on the roof in PA who missed by inches

I did not. In fact, I keep wondering why this guy's memory hasn't been elevated to Luigi status. For some really odd reason I can't fathom, he's been forgotten almost immediately after his attempt.

I guess he'll be remembered when the dark age America is entering finally ends.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Because he wasn't successful, over half the voting country supported the person he tried to assassinate, and he wasn't trying to make a political statement. The evidence pointed to him just chasing clout and going for the most prominent target he could. He looked up several different rallies as well.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Because trump survived.

You remember John Wilks Booth, and Lee Harvey Oswald. But nobody remembers the guy who shot reagan.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago

Aspiring musician John Hinckley? Ya know, he can’t seem to book a venue anywhere for some reason.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Yeah but the weird difference is, the media and people talked about the guy who shot Reagan for weeks. The guy who shot Trump fell into complete oblivion pretty much within hours. I've never seen anything like this.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 hours ago

It’s almost as if it was a siren call to have the plebs vote for him.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

And in 1... 2... 3... 'he's hurting the wrong people'

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

When government controls prices with direct intervention, that’s socialist policy. Isn't that what the talibangelicals claim to hate?

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Everyone's a socialist when they're waiting in line at a pharmacy. My point is, they have no idea what these words mean.

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[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 hours ago

Of course. Otherwise his crowd would expect him to fix stuff.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

His only comment on grocery prices was during his interview with Time magazine for his man of the year article in which he admitted that there isn’t much he can do to bring grocery prices back down to the levels of 2019. Economically, the only thing that will do that is a strong recession that no one wants.

This is what folks don't seem to understand: prices only go back to where they were five or six years ago if there's a recession, and a severe one at that. The Fed is trying to get inflation under control, but even if they're successful, that doesn't mean prices will come down, that only means prices won't go up as quickly. Getting inflation under control means prices go up 2% per year instead of 2.5% or 3%. Trump can't change any of this, and many of the policies he says he plans to implement would likely make it more difficult to get inflation down to the Fed's 2% target.

TLDR, shit ain't getting any less expensive unless there's a pretty bad recession, and Trump can't change that.

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