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“We just want a change, a change in the weather,” a retired aluminium worker wanting to go just by his first name, Paul, said as he sat with a group of friends in a cigarette shop in Struthers, a down-at-heel overwhelmingly white Youngstown suburb once known for its thick clusters of bars, pizza parlours, strip clubs and illegal gambling joints.

Oh, change you'll get. Even less health care, workers rights and job protection. Poisoned air, water, and salted earth. Weather events like you couldn't imagine. Not to mention the fact that you may lose people in your life, members of your family or people you know thanks to the republican hate campaign.

Guess you get what you fucking deserve. Too bad about everyone else though.

Betras said Trump’s success was a symptom of the Democrats’ failure to address the catastrophic impact of international trade agreements on manufacturing jobs in the US – a failure he pins on Bill Clinton and Barack Obama – and its further failure, under Obama, to take any meaningful action against Wall Street or the big banks after the housing collapse of 2007-08.

Whatever else you think about the article or about Ohio voters, these are valid and accurate criticisms in my view.

And this idiot's vote is dozens of times more powerful than that of any voter in any major city in the country.

democrat leadership will see this and think “damn! they are on to us we have to lie and scheme even harder at the expense of human dignity next time!”

If you’re going to be a crook, I’d rather know it than be lied to.

Of all dumb reasons for voting for Trump, this one takes the cake.

I think at some point this is just overanalyzing things. People vote for the same team they always have. It is like asking a football fan why they root for their team. There often isn't a real answer and what they tell you is ultimately nonsensical.

Where this fucking idiot was wrong was in thinking that Amerikkka has ever or will ever care about the common person. lol

Burn the whole country to the ground

These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.

Look, I know things are hard, but that's a really narrow take. At the very very least the democrats would not tear down what social services you could still claim. This is like shooting yourself in the foot, and being like "fuck that hurt, maybe it will be better next time?" Instead of "oh shit, better not shoot myself in the foot again".

This is the state of the American electorate. Just a total lack of critical thinking.

Only one side lies about being crooks, and one doesn’t.

And which is which? I can't tell which the speaker wants me to think. I think that says more about the speaker than it does about me. I can't tell if they're trying to shoot themselves in the foot on purpose.

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It sounds like he's probably referring to the Lordstown Motors auto plant that closed.

Apparently, some of the facility is now doing EV-related work.

It sounds like originally, there were about 4,500 people, and now about half that work at the new factory, and most of the rest were relocated by GM.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-town-grieving-lost-jobs-voters-are-deeply-divided-president-n1155596

Most of the 4,500 workers who lost their jobs last year, and in two earlier waves of layoffs since 2017, have started over in GM plants in unfamiliar towns hundreds of miles away.

https://atlaspolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Case-Study-Ultium-Cells-Ohio-Final.pdf

Ultium Cells Ohio is a $2.6 billion joint venture between General Motors (GM) and LG Energy Solution (LGES). The companies announced their plans for the facility in December 2019 and, as of June 2024, there are nearly 2,200 hourly and salaried workers on site, surpassing Ultium’s employment expectations when they first announced the facility.

GM relocated 1,300 hourly employees [4]. This was on top of shift cuts in 2016 and 2018 that impacted 1,250 and 1,500 employees respectively [5]

So while this is probably quite bad advice aimed at scoring political points:

"They're all coming back!" Trump told a cheering crowd at a rally in nearby Youngstown in 2017.

"Don't move! Don't sell your house!" he said.

Assuming that Trump's campaign had any idea that this would happen at the time he was speaking -- and apparently there was federal subsidy (albeit from the Biden-era IRA) involved:

Support from the federal government, including a $2.5 billion loan from the Department of Energy’s Loan Programs Office and tax credits from the Inflation Reduction Act, have been and will be essential to the construction and growth of Ultium Cells facilities in Ohio, Tennessee, and Michigan.

...that might be uncharacteristically accurate for Trump in that new jobs equal to maybe half the number of jobs that exited had been there (though not necessarily the same workers or skillset, and personally, I wouldn't have stayed around a closed auto plant for five years hoping that someone willing to hire me would show up and ramp up hiring and want to hire me).