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Propaganda leaflets dropped by Ukrainian drones over places where North Korean soldiers are hiding or moving in the Kursk region.

As we can see, Ukrainian UAV operators are aiming not only at the heads of DPRK mercenaries, but also at their new phobias - in the form of drones.

At the same time, giving them a choice: to surrender, escape from this horror and get a chance at a new life, or to die ingloriously and inevitably from an FPV drone or cluster munition.

Translation of the inscription: "Don't die in vain! Surrender is the way to survive."

https://t.me/russianocontext/5764

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[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 17 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Sadly, they are not proper merceneries. A mercenary fights for money, but those guys probably know their families will be repressed if they surrender.

If I was the developer of the propaganda leaflet, I would add one sentence (after double-checking with a competent social engineer):

  • "you get a new identity, at home they will think you died"
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think they will consider surrendering to a ~~pack~~ flight of drones a good idea.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yes. The protocol of "how to surrender" would also be useful to add.

Obviously, one cannot surrender to an FPV drone - it doesn't have enough battery for the pilot to check if one follows through with the promise.

Throwing down all weapons, raising a white cloth and walking towards the opposing side might be a good enough signal for the pilot however - they might go looking for another target before the battery runs out.

For the leaflet to achieve results, it must lay out a good method of how to surrender. And that's a lot easier with Russians since they have a language which Ukrainians understand.

To Russians, one can write "go to frequency X MHz, drop encryption and negotiate surrender" or "go to Telegram channel X to arrange surrender" but no such hope with North Koreans.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've seen a handful of Ukraine war shots.

There's a bunch where poor Russian conscripts drop their rifles and surrender to a drone, and the drone "flies" them to a nearby base.

The alternative being the drone being the last thing you ever see.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I can confirm, it happened a few times in Kursk, I've seen the videos.

However, the drone in question was a reconnaisance drone (those have long flight times). Ideally, you never see a reconnaisance drone - it sees you from beyond visual range well enough.

I believe the situation in Kursk was that Ukrainians deliberately sent a reconnaisance drone to take a close look, and perhaps also dropped a few leaflets. Russians then understood that their coordinates were known, they had no shelter available and a strike might come any second - and made the gestures to indicate surrender.

It also helped that the Russians in question were conscripts - young people undergoing military training. Support for the war is the lowest among this age group.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago

Just traduce some social welfare and asylum information posters from the rest of Europe into North Korean.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 38 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I think the should also drop usb sticks with libraries full of basic facts that NK soldiers may have never seen.

Perhaps occasionally a cheap e-reader as well. Can't inform them when theyre in NK, but now that they're there and youre already dropping leaflets, might be useful to try to deprogram them as well.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Cram as much porn into old smartphones and drop those.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Since porn is pretty quickly produced, we need to get a new sub category of porn where Western actors teach democratic history while having orgies

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Finally, I can use my Sexy Ben Franklin At the Beach cosplay for good and not evil.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

"Oh, fuck me like the Japanese Americans being sent to Internment camps in WW2!"

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

"Today we're gonna get to know the scocktractic method."

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 30 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

libraries full of ~~basic facts~~ porn

Perhaps occasionally ~~a cheap e-reader~~ 50 gallon drums of hard alcohol.

If they don't get seduced into surrendering, they have a higher chance of getting caught with their pants down.. Regardless, I see it as a great way to cause confusion and disorder, anyway.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Or spray almost pure LSD solution over their position and watch the mayhem from a distance which blasting the area with porn noises.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, don't do that. Anyone who has taken LSD and isn't a complete psychopath could tell you that this is evil shit.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I wouldn't

(it's just shit for other reason)

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 18 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds like the kind of plan the cold war era CIA would have come up with.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You mean did. We legit did dose a platoon blast music at them while screaming orders to see how it effects ability to fight. It's on video and kinda funny if not for the whole murdery purpose.

  1. English - https://youtu.be/82CYPWny3FE

  2. Usa - https://youtu.be/vbSEU8Hv4lA

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, though I think the LSD would make a big fucking difference (and I think they were referencing MKULTRA)

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The second video is literally from a mkultra program.

Ed: that test lead eventually to this under mkultra

https://youtu.be/4rW0wqSUx-E

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Perhaps occasionally ~~a cheap e-reader~~ 50 gallon drums of hard alcohol.

Perfect to cut through all the meth

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 72 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a very good example of something that i identify as 100% propaganda but still agree with. Dont die in vain, surrender. Another pointless fucking massacre russia started.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Dont die in vain, surrender.

They won't. The ones with families will likely rather die than surrender and I'd bet my cat that they only picked North Koreans with families. "Treacherous" North Koreans will have their entire families put in death camps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_punishment#North_Korea

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 27 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Inb4 the tankies denying that such a thing exists.

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[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 points 15 hours ago

Ah...

...well, if they do surrender at least they wouldn't get sent back to north koreaa

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[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 95 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They should say "We have food, liquor and porn".

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, but Zelenskyy poops out of his butt. Gross.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago

And I heard he sucks at golf. No thanks.

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[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I like that they used the old Communist style of esthetic to make it relatable to the Korean. Wonder what the art style is called

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 hours ago

Just imagine the silliness of military recruiting GenZ kids into wars by using anime girls.

Oh wait.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago

"I have only potato stamps to print hundreds of these and I don't want to be sent to gulag"

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have any North Korean soldiers surrendered or allowed themselves to be taken prisoner? I recall that there was a heavily wounded soldier who was captured but later died of his wounds, but I haven't heard about any other such incidents.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I believe most of em are so effectively brainwashed/family threatened that they put a grenade under their chin.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Imagine traveling to another country to help the invading force try to capture it...

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