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Since Lemmy is federated, and the admins of each instance choose what’s allowed and what’s not in their own instance.

How do you feel about what’s allowed and what’s not in your current instance ?

I’ll start: I’ve read people complaining about my instance admins, but I haven’t experienced nor seen anything I specifically disagree with.

And I’ve read things they wrote that I absolutely agree with, like not federating with Meta under any circumstances.

So for now, I’m happy with it. If I get banned randomly, I don’t think I’d go to a different instance, though. I’d probably just stop visiting Lemmy altogether.

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[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 minutes ago

Sh.itjust.works has been brilliant, tbh.

High uptime, reasonable admins.

Very happy with it

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 25 minutes ago

Both on lemm.ee and thelemmy.club its not very strict its just Common sense rules.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 hour ago

I've had some disagreements with admins of my instance and mods of some communities here and I'm yet to be banned. So, it's alright I suppose. Although I must say that I'm on the same general side of the political spectrum as the admins.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago

I'm on world. Fuck the admins of world.

[–] Shimitar@feddit.it 5 points 15 hours ago

I am the only (AFAIK) Italian instance and pretty happy. No censorship.

I don't know how people from Lemmy.world stand it, honestly.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

hell yeah brother 1,000,000 banned reactionaries and transphobes

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago
[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 21 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

"Censorship" has become a buzzword and lost all of its meaning

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The line is at least very blurred with moderation. One person's moderation is another person's censorship.

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Its the same thing. People are just primed into thinking that censorship is universally bad in every instance.

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

It simply means that somebody stopped you from talking.

That's it.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

It's meaning in abstract is simple, but it's actual manifestations are usually quite complex. Self-censorship for example: If you self-censor out of fear of a negative social reaction, to what degree is that actually someone else stopping you from talking? Everyone else, or the idea of everyone else? I would say that any view that's held by a group of people that's pervasive enough to cause others to calibrate their words towards them, any cultural context strong enough that visitors feel a need to adjust for it, automatically and unconsciously practices censorship.

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 2 points 17 hours ago

My experience with it has always been "they don't like me talking so they stopped me". Pretty simple. I speculate that this is the general case.

But yes, I have encountered the odor of that second variety a few times. Just the odor tho. I am not one to restrain my speech for fear of offending. On social media anyway.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

.ml here, I'm happy with this community. I know the reputation it has, but honestly, I haven't really seen it. I'm a hardcore leftist, but I've been very critical of China, Russia, etc. And I'm not a tankie. Obviously haven't been banned or had my comments removed.

The mods here seem quite reasonable, and of course if folks don't agree, there are a lot of other instances.

I used to be a free-speech absolutist when I was young, but then I realized that there isn't such a thing. Even the few places online that pride themselves on having "no censorship" like 4-chan still have a handful of things that they don't allow.

Quite frankly, I think those places are pretty nasty overall and I have no desire to emulate them. Racists, Pedos, lgbt-phobes don't need a platform or to have their opinions elevated or taken seriously.

I wouldn't think a top university's physics department is improved by devoting classes and curriculum to flat earth or 7-day creationism. Likewise, I don't think a forum or server is made better by allowing racists and bigots to have a safe space on it.

Of course, you have to decide what crosses the line, but welcome to real life. There's a difference between a hardcore neo-nazi who thinks Jews and black folks are literal sub-humans, and your 87 year-old grandpa who unironically calls the employees at his favorite asian buffet, "Chinamen."

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I have been banned twice from .ml just for mentioning that Russia shot down a civilian airplane in Ukraine.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 1 points 51 minutes ago

Can't really speak to specifics. I'll just say that there are definitely posts on .ml news and commentary communities that go against the typical views of many .ml members, and they are left up by the mods and allowed to be discussed and debated.

Every community has censorship, it's a spectrum. But that's what I love about the federation model and FOSS in general. There are always different communities with different focuses and standards, something for everybody. And still we all have the freedom to block content we don't want to see or support.

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

In general communities it's ok here but in global events it's easy to see in the modlog that certain topics which are not favorable for Socialist-In-Name-Only are hidden very fast.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

I haven't checked the log, but I get my news from several different sources, Lemmy is only one of them.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I haven't really had any bad experiences with .ml communities or users. I consider myself a Marxist actually. I mostly saw the China, Russia, and North Korean dick sucking on Reddit. I remember someone on Reddit actually arguing that leftists should use Redstar OS (North Korean Linux distro designed to spy on its users) because its made by a socialist country that cares about its people. Guess that's why they're executed for stealing bread. I'm sorry about your instances bad reputation, I really haven't seen it. Besides, there are assholes in every community.

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[–] klemptor@startrek.website 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm happy with my instance, no complaints!

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Is it because you are free to talk strange? Or is it because you don't talk strange?

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don't generally say hateful things, so no risk of being censored for that, and I like that my instance doesn't censor anything that could possibly be considered a slur the way .ml does.

I was originally on .ml and I remember seeing a comment that had a legitimate use of a word that could be considered a slur in another context. I don't remember the exact scenario, but it was something equivalent to saying "response time retardation" in relation to drunk driving. And "retardation" was censored, which created unnecessary confusion. I'd been thinking of switching instances anyway, and that silly little example is what pushed me over the edge. I guess I'd rather not be cushioned from every word that might be hurtful, especially when doing so can cause confusion.

No hate or disrespect to .ml, by the way - I'm very grateful to Dessalines and crew for creating lemmy and Jerboa, and I respect their right to administer their instance the way they see fit. To me that's the neat thing about the fediverse - it allows for a "different strokes for different folks" approach. :)

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah the exact thing you described happened here as well, it's a tiny bit annoying although not enough for me to switch instances over

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