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Since Lemmy is federated, and the admins of each instance choose what’s allowed and what’s not in their own instance.

How do you feel about what’s allowed and what’s not in your current instance ?

I’ll start: I’ve read people complaining about my instance admins, but I haven’t experienced nor seen anything I specifically disagree with.

And I’ve read things they wrote that I absolutely agree with, like not federating with Meta under any circumstances.

So for now, I’m happy with it. If I get banned randomly, I don’t think I’d go to a different instance, though. I’d probably just stop visiting Lemmy altogether.

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

hell yeah brother 1,000,000 banned reactionaries and transphobes

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 54 minutes ago
[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

"Censorship" has become a buzzword and lost all of its meaning

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It simply means that somebody stopped you from talking.

That's it.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It's meaning in abstract is simple, but it's actual manifestations are usually quite complex. Self-censorship for example: If you self-censor out of fear of a negative social reaction, to what degree is that actually someone else stopping you from talking? Everyone else, or the idea of everyone else? I would say that any view that's held by a group of people that's pervasive enough to cause others to calibrate their words towards them, any cultural context strong enough that visitors feel a need to adjust for it, automatically and unconsciously practices censorship.

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 1 points 1 hour ago

My experience with it has always been "they don't like me talking so they stopped me". Pretty simple. I speculate that this is the general case.

But yes, I have encountered the odor of that second variety a few times. Just the odor tho. I am not one to restrain my speech for fear of offending. On social media anyway.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 19 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

.ml here, I'm happy with this community. I know the reputation it has, but honestly, I haven't really seen it. I'm a hardcore leftist, but I've been very critical of China, Russia, etc. And I'm not a tankie. Obviously haven't been banned or had my comments removed.

The mods here seem quite reasonable, and of course if folks don't agree, there are a lot of other instances.

I used to be a free-speech absolutist when I was young, but then I realized that there isn't such a thing. Even the few places online that pride themselves on having "no censorship" like 4-chan still have a handful of things that they don't allow.

Quite frankly, I think those places are pretty nasty overall and I have no desire to emulate them. Racists, Pedos, lgbt-phobes don't need a platform or to have their opinions elevated or taken seriously.

I wouldn't think a top university's physics department is improved by devoting classes and curriculum to flat earth or 7-day creationism. Likewise, I don't think a forum or server is made better by allowing racists and bigots to have a safe space on it.

Of course, you have to decide what crosses the line, but welcome to real life. There's a difference between a hardcore neo-nazi who thinks Jews and black folks are literal sub-humans, and your 87 year-old grandpa who unironically calls the employees at his favorite asian buffet, "Chinamen."

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 0 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I think 99.99% of Lemmy is hardcore leftist so it's no wonder they don't fuck with you, so it's no wonder that you have no complaints.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

Lemmy largely has 3 camps, the Anarchists, the Marxists, and the Liberals, and each instance leans overwhelmingly in one or 2 of those directions. Looking at the number of active users on each instance, at this point it's fair to say that the liberal camp is probably the largest, as much as I wish that wasn't true.

That does make for ample radicalization territory, however.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

If "hardcore leftist" is defined as "left of Joe Biden," then sure. Within that group there are a wide range of opinions.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm happy with my instance, no complaints!

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 2 points 1 hour ago

Is it because you are free to talk strange? Or is it because you don't talk strange?

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago

honestly too light

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I've been thinking about switching over to lemmy.today as it's not currently defederated with anyone, so I can decide who to block and keep for myself. It's based in Oregon, and I like the idea of joining an instance close to me. I do worry about Lemmy.world being so overly dominate in the federated-lemmy-space.

But many of the communities that I participate in are lemmy.world, and it's nice that they send me an automated notice whenever a post/comment of mine is removed. I've already subscribed to many communities and would have to do that all over again. and I haven't thought of a creative new username.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

You can use the same username since they're unique per instance. I had the same one on Lemmy.world

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 28 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I'm happy with Lemmy.ml. I feel like moderation is taken seriously here and that is a very good thing. I don't care for "free speech" that provides a platform for immoral points of view. For example, I do not need to consider the opinions of racists or Nazis. I've heard them plenty and there is no redeeming value in their speech. It is a settled debate. Anyone who doesn't understand that deserves your suspicion.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

.ml rocks. I know people are upset when tankies post walls of text but it's their space to. I just wish they could live how they want, same as I do. Even if we want very different things in life. Want some get some.

You don't have to craft a PhD dissertation any time they reply to you. Just move on to the next shit post. Some feel obligated, and that's your perogative. I have to many part time jobs to reply to everyone here.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Our informative well-sourced arguments, their propagandistic walls of text

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Also on .ml and agree. Nazi shit on an instance makes it unusable as far as I'm concerned.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

The only thing I want to know about nazis is how far away they are so I can adjust my aim.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'm very comfortable on the .ml instances where I participate, mostly reading, commenting much less because I'm still learning and considering perspectives that I was heavily propagandized to reject. My questions are answered, my thoughts are challenged, and sometimes I have to chew on that for awhile. Other thoughts it seems are "we won't know until we know," and I'm okay with that. It's not always comfortable, it's very often uncomfortable, but I feel it's necessary for my personal development as a human being. I don't know everything, no one can, but I'm willing to consider perspectives that were once foreign and/or shunned by myself. It's not even necessarily that I automatically believe everything I read, more that I'm working to suspend disbelief in order to gather and consider more data. Iow, the older I get and more I understand, the more I realize how much I don't know and understand.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 13 hours ago

It sounds like you have a great attitude, and I can relate to a lot of what you say.

My instance has been really good, with some hiccups, but I also appreciate that it doesn’t rampantly defederate (to my knowledge) because while I can handle a more overbearing moderation staff I like being able to see other instances and appreciate the dialogue going on in them.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Massive fan of feddit.uk and Lemm.ee, moderation has been great, feddit.uk the admin have shown a willingness and urgency in helping user. My personal experience; helping with resetting a backend issue effecting my account and looking into bot'ed down voting when I DM'd them.

Lemm.ee is just good with their federation philosophy which can be found on the sidebar.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Lemm.ee is nice. No complaints.

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Agreed. I appreciate the well-thought and out level headed approach lemm.ee has taken.

Actually, for a moment I was annoyed they wouldn’t defederate with a certain offensive instance. But, now, looking back on it, I think they made the right decision. I appreciate that defederation is an extreme tool that shouldn’t be used lightly.

[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 11 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I’m on lemmy.one which has disabled downvoting. If I had known in advance I would have picked another instance. Unfortunately, Lemmy doesn’t have a mechanism to transfer your account to another instance yet.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 14 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Disabling down votes is good actually because it forces people to engage and not just down vote and move on.

[–] glans@hexbear.net 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

but sometimes i just want to be passive aggressive

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Or you want to communicate that a highly upvoted thing isn't unanimously supported, but you don't want the tsunami of downvotes that comes with leaving a comment that says you disagree.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Hey dude, I just wanted to let you know there is an option in your settings so you don't see upvotes or downvotes.

Lemmy (AFAIK) doesn't even show you your total upvotes (karma... whatever it's called) by default either. None of these imaginary points fucking matter.

So why don't you do yourself a favor and uncheck these boxes and not give a fuck what others think about your comment.

I know I have.

(Lemmy is rad as fuck)

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

Holy shit I completely had no idea, why doesn't this ever get brought up when they talk about voting in general? Thank you for letting people know.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Copy settings to new account, add a note in your old profile telling people you've moved to another instance and add the link to your new profile. Use the same Display name in both. Done. If you want to remember what you posted, you could always search and filter by your old account and new account. It's effectively the same as a transfer.

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