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[–] msage@programming.dev 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Unpopular opinion: I hated Evangelion, and always think that people give too much meaning behind the imaginery and symbolism.

Sure, trauma, failure, loss are bad, but lots of stuff made no sense even with extensive explanations by fans.

I love Madoka, and think it communicates similiar concept much better.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Not unpopular and not wrong. It was one of "The Firsts" that really influenced people.

I don't love Evangelion, but I don't hate it. I lump it with other media of that era like Matrix, Lain, Friends & Seinfeld, etc. They walked so others can run.

[–] msage@programming.dev 0 points 11 hours ago

The first Matrix stands the test of time.

Lain... never got into it. Friends aged badly.

I have yet to watch Seinfeld.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, I remember when I was younger my older brother thought that show was the shit, so like 25 years later, I decide to pick it up on a whim. Watch a couple episodes, and couldn't get into it. The older women of the series were extremely inappropriate towards the child protagonist, and I just couldn't get past it. I was like "Damn Japan, you just gonna go full Japan on this show, huh"

[–] aeki@slrpnk.net 26 points 23 hours ago

I mostly like the last paragraph about trauma just making you fucked up in the head.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 19 hours ago

because we don't really want to see Shinji anymore

I was feeling that by episode 2

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

So what was the other scene 😰?

[–] teije9@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 21 hours ago

a girl, asuka, is in the hospital. shinji is visiting and shakes her while crying 'wake up wake up' this shaking makes her vest unzip...

shinji, who is incredibly mentally ill, traumatised, and depressed responds to this by whipping his dick out and jerking off

fun fact: the maker of the manga said he was uncomfortable with drawing a scene where shinji and another guy, kaworu kissed, but never said anything about this scene

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Never seen the show, but from the post the comment is from, the contrast went from unconscious girl and blood on hands to unconscious girl and jizz on hands.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's a story about a bunch of mentally ill people abusing each other. It's very crude and meant to show the worst parts of humanity and what trauma does to them.

[–] BangCrash@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone keeps saying mentally ill.

I didn't get that. I saw Shinji, Asuka & Rei as all being different parts of the same psyche. Different parts of the ego, Id & superego.

This was reinforced by the concept of syncing the pilot to the robot, or in human consciousness the psyche to the meat suit.

When the psyche and robot are synchronised they are unstoppable, but do many doubts and imposter syndrome feelings get in the way of that control that we seldom synchronise properly

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

The first paragraph of your comment doesn't really connect with the next two. How does the pilot/psyche having to link with the robot/body implies Shinji, Asuka and Rei are part of the same psyche?

Anyway, you're ignoring all of the other mentally ill characters.

  • Ryoji hates himself so much that he flirts with anything that moves just to try and prove to himself that he is worthy of love.
  • Misato is so lonely that she's pushed into a toxic relationship with Ryoji. At her worst, she goes full pedophile just to get some affection.
  • Gendo is so jealous of his own son that he literally tries to destroy the world so that he can be alone with his wife.
  • Naoko was so obsessed with Gendo that she was not only glad when his wife died but also couldn't say no when asked to help him bring her back to life via cloning. She then killed the clone and probably herself.
  • Ritsuko is fucking her mom's lover. Enough said.
[–] josefo@leminal.space 23 points 1 day ago

Also mirrors his father having Adam embryo in his hand.