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Maybe I’m just face-blind or being dense but the photos from the scene of the crime look like a different dude than the ginning hostel check in guy. The jackets and backpacks are different. Although people can have multiple jackets and backpacks. We don’t see much of the shooters face but the eyebrows look different. Although, people can pluck/shave eyebrows. I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 502 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?

I sure as fuck wouldn't. I know enough not to come anywhere near the police if they're scrutinizing me for any reason, even if I know 100% I'm innocent and I can prove it. You absolutely cannot trust them not to just arrest you and railroad you into a bullshit conviction anyway, or plant some evidence, or decide "he had a knife" and just outright kill you. You know how they say "anything you say can be used against you?" That's because they absolutely won't use it to help you, even if you're not guilty of anything.

I am positive city hall is breathing down the NYPD's neck real hard right now. The entire department has got a lot of egg on its face for not being able to stop this guy, not being able to positively identify this guy, hell, not even know with any certainty where he went afterwards. They are under immense pressure to hang somebody -- anybody -- over this because they're looking even more like chumps than usual.

So no, a wise man would not expose himself to the cops in any way whatsoever.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 175 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The cops need to present a suspect so they can say they did their job. Whether it's the right suspect is another matter.

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 75 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yep, if something like this can happen, it might not be the best idea to go to the police:

Man pressured to confess he killed his dad. His dad was alive and well [3:40]

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Fuck I had to stop watching after the bit with his dog. That's heartbreaking

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 107 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

And if the cops do ask and want to pursue questioning you .... you don't talk to the cops in this situation and just ask for a lawyer ... they ask what your name is - lawyer ... what is your date of birth - lawyer ... where are you from? lawyer ... lawyer, lawyer, lawyer

Never talk to the cops, especially when the cops are desperately looking for a suspect.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Don't ask. Tell them to get you your lawyer.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)
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[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fair point. I suspect that the NYPD doesn’t really want to bring him in alive.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

A dead suspect checks the boxes. Can't dispute facts with evidence. Allows the media to say they got him. Gives them an easy victory.

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[–] Aolley@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 191 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Have we ruled out the CEO being a crisis actor?

[–] classic@fedia.io 47 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, how do we really know he didn't just push himself out of a window? 🤔

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[–] Waldowal@lemmy.world 152 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Definately 7' 8" female. Asian descent. Bald. Possible Alopecia. Dwarfism.

[–] And009@reddthat.com 28 points 2 weeks ago

8 foot dwarves

TIL we're Amazonians

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 131 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Feel free to upload more pictures claiming to be him that aren't, post them to Reddit, send them to the news claiming to be from an official source.

Protect your folk heros America.

[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Regardless of whether the picture is correct, if you think you saw this man, no you didn’t.

[–] classic@fedia.io 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Feel free to upload more AI generated pictures claiming to be him that aren't, post them to....

ftfy

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 120 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Backpack & jacket type AND color are all different. The other dude even has his hood from a hoodie beneath the jacket while the first one has his hood from his jacket. Facially also completely different. I guess the NYPD has reached Reddit doxxing levels now.

[–] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 2 weeks ago

I guess the NYPD has reached Reddit doxxing levels now.

Maybe they have always been at Reddit doxxing levels?

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[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 83 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Everyone keeps saying look at this photo of the suspect. All I see is an image that won’t load.

Weird.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh really? The image loads for me, but I certainly didn't see anything.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn't look like anything to me.

[–] MagnyusG@lemmy.world 73 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I was curious when I was hearing the police chatter saying the suspect was wearing a "cream-coloured" jacket, when in the assassination footage it's pretty undeniably black or a dark colour at least.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 114 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I heard he was wearing a ~~white and gold~~ blue and black coat.

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[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The fabric looks different too. Like the shooter’s jacket seems to have a texture like gore-tex and the hostel guy’s jacket seems more like a cotton-poly weave. It’s hard to know for sure with the low quality images, but the colors look really different (and neither is anything close to cream)

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago

Two different colored backpacks too

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[–] pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Different bag. Different jacket.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, these are obviously different. All kinds of visible differences. Pockets, color of bag, strap sizes, no string on hood, lapel looks different, one looks more like a hoodie with a jacket, the other looks like a jacket with a hood... Just doesn't match very well at all.

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[–] sepi@piefed.social 62 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

NYC cops are dumb as hell.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago

~~NYC~~ cops are dumb as hell.

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[–] MooseTheDog@lemmy.world 61 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

CNN and others just put the photos out without verification. No official photos have been released. CNN even said as much in their article

[–] CulturedLout@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That's pretty fucking irresponsible

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"Hi we're CNN. We don't really have reporters. We regurgitate random shit we find on social media. Liberal, conservative... Suck my dick we're CNN and we're always just fucking there butching reality so you stay angry and we stay relevant. Fuck you."

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[–] spector@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

The clothing color could be due to lighting. Remember the blue black dress meme? Multiple backpacks is too easy. So that's a non-issue.

That being said. Why isn't anyone considering that maybe the cops couldn't give a shit either. But they have to try because the money people said so.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don’t think lighting makes a light grey backpack into black. That’s a bit of a stretch. Especially considering the jacket on the left have no chest pockets. The one on the right has massive pocket flaps like they are the main character.

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[–] KnowledgeableNip@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They'll happily jail an innocent person so they can avoid looking incompetent.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago

These are not the same person. They fit the description, and where near the scene. Police would want to talk to both regardless.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Reminder even facial-recognition softwares & Geo-Location data HAVE made errors that put innocent people in jail

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 42 points 2 weeks ago (18 children)

These all look like different people with photos from different places at different times of the day. Probably their AI matched them and the coppers just had a quick glance, then put them on this panel.

Honestly, I doubt the person who shot him would actually be mad at being caught. He might've started a movement.

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[–] Dr_Box@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

The assassin looks like he is wearing a black windbreaker style jacket and the other guy looks like he is wearing a cream colored dickies jean jacket with the grey hood like you get from walmart

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Steal his look at a reasonable price!

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The nose I can go either way on. It looks "different" to me but wearing a mask and not grinning makes a huge difference there (it is why you are told to not smile for ID photos). The eyebrows are more a function of angle and resolution as you can see some darkness on the left (and he is obviously scowling and not flirting with a cute desk girl).

As for the jacket and backpack? Too lazy to look up the backpack models (people figured it out) but the one on the left looks small enough to fit in the one on the right. So he has his backpack for travel and then a smaller one full of gun and snacks and whatever else for the stakeout.

I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?

Never talk to the cops without a lawyer and NEVER voluntarily talk to them.

Also? The cops are going to find SOMEONE in the next week or so. And you can be damned sure they are going to take advantage of all of the news and social media about how this is a skilled hitman fighting for the loss of a loved one who WILL NOT BE TAKEN ALIVE. They'll corner whoever they can pin it on, shoot them a few times, and then plant a gun and call it a day.

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

Wow. Dark haired male in dark hooded jacket and back pack. Rare. I see slightly less than 30 such most days.

[–] its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago

Well I'm terrible at this game because all 4 of those look like different people

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

These are all different people, and two of the images look fake.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The first back pack is white. The second one is very dark white almost black. The first jacket has white buttons, the second jacket has dark white buttons almost black. The first jacket has buttons, the second one looks like a special kind of button where the buttons on one side intermesh with the buttons on the otherwise in a zigzag pattern... I bet those have a name like zigzaper or zigper, who knows.

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