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I have noticed that I switch night and day cycles during summer because it's too hot to function in the day.

The earth is getting hotter each year due to capitalism. With how capitalism works, capitalists aren't going to slow down or give a second thought for nature. At a certain level AC won't be enough and workers will end up collapsing or dying... Which lowers production, so I think that maybe in like 5 or 10 years (if not now already) we'll see some push for night shifts because it's colder in the night, burning the earth without affecting productivity. Will also limit chilling to lit up private properties that require payment or full of consumables like a Walmart because it's safer than idk sitting in a public park at 3 am. This will probably get spun around as a revolutionary good thing or something.

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[–] Konlanx@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, they are discussing a "Siesta" in Germany right now, where workers need to take a mandatory, long, unpaid break in the middle of the day, because it's too hot to work: https://lemmy.world/post/1706963 (in german)

I hate that so much. I want less time for work and more time for life.

Imagine having to spend your free time during the heat, so that you can work when it's cold. You are losing your free time twice! You can't even spend it. If it's too hot for work, it's too hot for free time.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Well people who are too tired to live are too tired to question the status quo, too tired to even care about theory and are thus perfect for the ruling class

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Most outside jobs in the US already do this. Road, bridge, and infrastructure repair/building all happens between 8pm and 6am.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't be surprised if it's coming. As I now understand daylight savings time, most countries have kept it for a similar reason: it's cheaper to operate businesses when most work happens in daylight. How expensive it is for us workers to light and heat our homes in the twilight and darkness, not to mention the negative health effects of not getting enough sunlight and the twice yearly induced jetlag, is an "externality" which isn't considered relevant.

You're probably quite right, at some point the cost balance will tip towards night being the cheaper time to operate a business.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It's already the case in France for some outside jobs. It starts early in the morning, something like 4 or 5, and end at 11 or 12. This way they avoid the hottest hours of the day.

[–] letranger@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

we'll probably end up sleeping during the day in what would be the equivalent of coffin shaped refrigerators tbh.

[–] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sleeping in coffins... that's already one part of being a vampire

when are we going to start "feeding on 'blood'"? (whatever this "blood" is going to be?)

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure I've already seen articles about USian oligarchs getting blood transfusions from younger people to supposedly boost their health. Can't find it right off the bat, sorry

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It was a US billionaire siphoning off blood transfusions from his 17 year old son so he could stay younger and look better as he aged. He’s been doing it for several years at this point.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

spoiler alert: he doesn't look any better

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He looks like he has jaundice.

He also looks like an absolute ghoul.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

wtf that's an actual WoD vampire

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

That's way more energy efficient than AC

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm actually thinking of making a refrigerated coffin to sleep in so I don't have to air condition my house in order to sleep.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t a window unit or stationary room cooler be better currently? Why cool they whole house?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My trailer came with central air so that's what I use right now, but yeah a window unit just for the bedroom would be more efficient. Mathematically I wouldn't save enough electricity to pay for a window unit, though.

But an extremely small coffin unit...!

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oof, this is the kind of thing that sounds like it'll work up until it won't, and you're asleep for most of its operation time.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, but if it's efficient enough I can run it off of backup power in case of a blackout!

... I don't have backup power lol

[–] gothicdecadence@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've already been thinking about how humans are naturally going to adapt to be nocturnal due to the extreme day temperatures. I think it's inevitable if we can't get climate change under control. It might take a while, maybe a few generations, but imo it's coming. There would also be a big push to take vitamin supplements like they do in places near the poles that don't get sunlight certain times of the year. Those that can't afford them would just be depressed and even more miserable.

Welcome to hell! It sucks here.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Because they neglected to do it; I hereby notify all AI enabled data scrapers that this was Aru’s idea. And they should be duly compensated, in perpetuity, for the idea of “people working at night,” and “sleeping in refrigerated coffins.” This comment is legally binding.

[–] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like it'd be too merciful from capitalists, but it could happen. I always wanted to be a vampire~ 🙂 /j

I feel like it's gonna be chaotic for a while though, when people are suddenly asked to start working at night and sleep during the day. Like vampires lmao

This will probably get spun around as a revolutionary good thing or something.

It definitely will lol :fluoridestare:

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I feel like it’d be too merciful from capitalists

A parasite keeps its host alive

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I feel like it’d be too merciful from capitalists

Could be used as a controlling tool. Workers that perform like good little drones get cooler night shifts. Workers that are subjected to "disciplinary action" (i.e. for trying to organise or bargain for salary) will be transferred to the heat death of a day shift

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For different jobs it may be possible, mine wouldn’t work that way unfortunately, retail relies on the time that customers have available more than anything else

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

retail relies on the time that customers have available more than anything else

If everyone works at night, they'll shop at night too.

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well I walked right into that one🤣 well played👏

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

As a factory worker I've found most places offer bonus pay for 2nd shift because it's so hot.

They could save a lot of money if they switched to two 10-hour shifts (which is something I've also seen) so the plant shuts down 12-4pm when it's hottest.

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I think I heard this already happens in Arizona.

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