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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 hours ago

I also noted this was a problem with the Rebel Alliance (who just supports a republic of oligarchs), and was called a centrist for my efforts.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 hours ago

It's something that really bothers me about communism and socialism being derisive in the US, even in 2024, about 35 years after USSR fell.

The alternative to community-centric society is autocracy, typically devolving into monarchism.

Death to monarchists!

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
[–] laserm@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

We conquering Cartage with this one 🔥🔥🔥

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

IMPERIVM SINE FINE

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

anti imperialist/colonial supporters when they find out that the entire timeline of human history is conquest, colonialism, and imperialism.

[–] leaf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

Tankies support the more problematic empires such as Russia and China.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 hour ago

I wonder why a westerner who gets their news from english speaking western sources which profit off of the same wealth extraction as the empire they are part of would think like this? Surely the western free press would not be influenced by the whims of capital and empire. Obviously China and Russia must be the "worse empire", my empire told me so!

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

And in doing so they may have pushed large parts of the Chinese-American community to the right. Tankies caping for the CCP were not a good look for the moderate immigrants who had been fucked over by the Chinese government in various ways.

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 1 points 28 minutes ago

"moderate" immigrants from China don't exist. You can't be moderate between two entirely different and incompatible socioeconomic systems.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Did you not read the meme? Imperialism is bad no matter who is doing it, and arguing over which empire is more 'problematic' is counterproductive, as we should oppose all empires instead of wasting all of our time and effort on getting on each other's throats.

true, being rude to other people is bad. We should stop being rude and criminalize it.

wait...

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

You're just repeating the meme.

They are all bad, they are all part of the problems we face globally, and whatabouting "them" to avoid facing criticism of "us" only serves those in power by deflecting criticism of them.

[–] spacedout@lemmy.ml -3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

The vile Russian Empire, with its Romanov dynasty, super problematic. If Peter is so great, why does he look so wimpy compared to Joe Rogan? Hah, those stupid tankies don't even realize the Chinese empire has been abolished for over 110 years!

[–] spacedout@lemmy.ml -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry for being snarky... Of course modern China is an empire. Just without overseas military bases. A soft empire, one might say.

[–] glizzyguzzler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They gettin into the overseas military bases; talkin’ bout Djibouti and a lil’ Cambodia as a treat

[–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

4 Chinese bases, as compared to 800 or so US bases. And what is the death toll of Chinese military interventions since the second World War? Not sure, but it certainly isn't racking up to the millions upon millions killed by US foreign intervention. Like the other commenter is saying, don't support nation states, good on you. But doing bothsidesism and false balances when talking about Empire is absurd. Like calling US empire 'less problematic' 🤡

Oh no I was just being pedantic

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 56 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

God how true this is for all the America bad people

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Idk man, I feel like a lot of us "America bad" people are from Europe and don't support China or Russia either.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Lemmy has wayyyy to many people who can't understand that America bad ≠ China good.

[–] mamotromico@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah but it’s a very easy/not even contest that “China better than America”. You don’t need China to be good for that to be true.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah it’s annoying when any criticism of Occupied China results in them talking about America

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Well given how Lemmy is mostly American ultra-leftwing it's weird when they talk about changing China when they can't even change their own neighbourhood, or even their own home.

[–] hfiwg@reddthat.com -3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Gets it in one.

There's a reason everyone is currently demonizing liberal ideology instead of standing up for the rights that the conservatives are working to strip away.

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 22 points 9 hours ago

Liberal ideology is a regressive conservative ideology.

It was progressive three centuries ago. It's not anymore, it's outlived it's usefulness.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 14 points 9 hours ago

Noooooo I want the empire that hides all the bad things they do so I don't have to think about it while I drive my SUV and buy Starbucks!!!! /s

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

That's why I don't support governments or countries, I support people and anarchist liberation movements :3

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly! I'm so tired of being accused of being a liberal and/or a fascist every single time I note that China or Russia isn't some perfect leftist utopia, but in fact just another empire that is a pain in the ass not only to other countries but also their own citizens.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

China is a fascist ethnostate, Russia is another neoliberal capitalist state, North Korea IMO cannot be described as socialist, Vietnam is pretty cool but mixed and only partially socialist, Cuba is not great tbh just in general, Venezuela is horrible, the Nordic states are just Social Democrat states, Israel has multiple worker co-ops but that doesn't change the fact that they're still a genocidal ethnostate, that just about covers all the tankie countries.

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 1 points 26 minutes ago

If you think China is fascist, you're brainwashed. There isnt another explanation for thinking the most democratic nation currently on the planet is fascist.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 hour ago

Russia has long reached the end state of neoliberal capitalism, fascism. The US is currently transitioning.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 1 points 36 minutes ago

Israel is a tankie country now? Don't they support Palestine? Let's not rob tankies of their only correct opinion!

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 35 points 10 hours ago (3 children)
[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 4 hours ago

Hate your state

Peace, Justice, and Anarchy

[–] F04118F@feddit.nl 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 15 points 9 hours ago

Only bad dragons 😉

[–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Max Stirner? In my 196? I'm for it.