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After one Trump presidency and on the eve of another, it is now clear that a once mighty global superpower is allowing its gaze to turn inward, to feed off resentment more than idealism, to think smaller.

Public sentiment – not just the political class – feels threatened by the flow of migrants once regarded as the country’s lifeblood. Global trade, once an article of faith for free marketeers and architects of the postwar Pax Americana, is now a cancer eating away at US prosperity – its own foreign invasion.

Military alliances and foreign policy no longer command the cross-party consensus of the cold war era, when politics could be relied upon to “stop at the water’s edge”, in the famous formulation of the Truman-era senator Arthur Vandenberg.

Now the politics don’t stop at all, for any reason. And alliances are for chumps.

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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago
[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 64 points 4 days ago (2 children)

american dream was lost a while back. now its a matter of losing american sanity.

[–] wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The American dream has changed so many times through the generations I'm not sure there's any cohesive vision. I remember it used to be owning a house, having kids, and being self sufficient. Nowadays I don't think young people even want kids- having time and money to have fun seems like the dream, which is sort of... bleak? That should be the bare minimum, but the older generations failed them.

[–] vanontom@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'm still amazed at the catastrophic damage one single generation can do to a country, voting for terrible policies over and over again (Reagan, Bush, Trump). Refusing to admit when things are not working, turning instead to a propaganda apparatus, preferring to detach from reality. And they're not even done (dead) yet...

[–] wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 4 days ago

Their hold is so strong we elected a guy with dementia over a healthy qualified person. At this point only death canl release their grasp

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

If the kids in middle school are any indication the American dream is now to become a popular streamer

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 47 points 4 days ago

"The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago

The Republican war on the middle class is what's killed the American Dream. Doing everything possible to reduce the buying power of white and blue-collar workers has gutted class mobility. The Democrats have played along to keep shifting the Overton Window towards the right to help make it happen. Donors happy all around as they move production offshore for low labor cost.

System working as intended.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

ask again in 4 years when the rapist refuses to step down and his court lackeys back him on it

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I dont think he makes it 4 years. He is just the means to an end. Vance i think 25th amendments him Jan 21, 2027. That way he wont serve 2 years and can run for 2 full terms. Its that or they just kill him. Dems will 100% get the blame and it could get even worse.

I think it is if you serve more than half a term it counts as 1 term for purposes of the 2 term limit.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You're cute that you think we'll have elections again. Before the midterms, they'll run a false flag operation so they can declare martial law and cancel elections.

"If I'm elected, you'll never have to vote again!"

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

We'll have elections just like Russia and China do

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[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This, of course, assumes he doesn't just drop dead of any one of a dozen age-related health issues one day.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If Trump dies in office, I'd prefer it to be a lighning strike while he's golfing.

Something that even the craziest of the MAGAts can't get away with blaming on the democrats.

[–] eccentric@lemm.ee 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If Trump dies in office, I'd prefer it to be a lighning strike while he's golfing.

Believe it or not, some of them believe Democrats control the weather. I can hear it now, "Democrats assassinated Trump with lightning!"


"They" can control the weather, and the proof is in the patents, said Georgia Republican U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You think the Jewish space laser people won’t just immediately start screaming that the Haitians have built a lightning shrine on the island or something like that? We are no longer bound by reality in reporting, much less truth

[–] saruwatarikooji@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Don't forget that they claimed hurricane helene was manufactured by the dems and sent to the states it went through for the sole purpose of killing Republicans ahead of the election.

I really wish I was making that one up...

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Trust him, the new 'Messiah' will hold back every hurricane with his neutron bombs. /s

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

I've been thinking a lot about this, like others, and found one kernel of hope to hang onto: the only way to know a democracy is safe from internal threats is to test that democracy. This is that test. This is the tyranny of the minority that the founding fathers were worried about. This is the stress test for democracy and I pray wiser men have stymied the most malicious people in American history.

If we get through this, and are faced with another Reconstruction period, we must be diligent and exterminate bigotry and corporate undermining of government bodies.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 days ago

If I can quote the late George Carlin: "They call it the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."

I would argue that George was right and the American dream doesn't exist, and never existed. You cannot destroy that which does not exist..

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Pfft, they havent lost faith in it. They just voted against it because they're all uneducated morons who take lies at face value.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Bit more than that, it’s maybe the end of American influence in the world because the neocon 3.0 agenda will bring intense economic strife and social suffering. The environmental and regulatory policies will lead to infrastructure deterioration and polluted air, water etc. The health policies will lead to a weak and sick population. The rich and upper middle class will live in Nordic countries or Europe, as they mostly already do, where they will enjoy the social policies that they deprive Americans of. Most talent will likely go to other countries. But I seriously hope I am wrong.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

The US has lost faith in the american dream and the world has lost faith in the US.

We're moving on!

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