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The FCC is still taking comments from the public about how much data you really use and what your experience with data caps is like.

The Federal Communications Commission is officially looking into broadband data caps and their impact on consumers. On Tuesday, the FCC approved a notice of inquiry to examine whether data caps harm consumers and competition, as well as why data caps persist "despite increased broadband needs" and the "technical ability to offer unlimited data plans," as spotted earlier by Engadget.

Many internet plans come with a data cap that limits how much bandwidth you can use each month. If you go over the data cap, internet service providers will typically charge an extra fee or slow down your service. The FCC first started inviting consumers to comment on broadband data caps last June, hundreds of which you can now read on the agency's website.

You can still share your experience with broadband data caps with the FCC through this form, which will ask for details about the name of your ISP, usage limits, and any challenges you've encountered due to the cap.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 152 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They exist so that companies can extract additional dollars from each data line.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Its like they can sell you the same ticket to the show twice.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago

More like one charge to have access to the show, and an additional charge for having the audacity to actually watch it.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

Buh my infrastructureszzzz!

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 103 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Biden's FCC has been killing it, really nice to see them crack down on data caps with this and the standardized billing info

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

How 'bout a double finger fuck Ajit Pai while we're on the subject.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's not enough, a good serving of raw pineapple inside his ass would work better

[–] 9bananas@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

may i offer you a cactus in these trying times?

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

That guy should to be in prison

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For anyone wondering what the FCC in a second Trump Administration will look like: it won't. Look like anything. Because it won't exist anymore.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Money.

When something isn't about money or power, then you can actually phrase it like it's a surprise.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ah, so I can be surprised about the reason why I like pooping in the morning. At least until I get paid for doing it. Or elected.

[–] msage@programming.dev 6 points 2 weeks ago

My boss makes a dollar

while I make a dime

That's why I shit

on company time

[–] ech@lemm.ee 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

and why they still exist

Does that really require inquiry? It's for more money, fucking obviously.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 weeks ago

"We spent six years investigating why a business would want to overcharge customers in order to make more money. What we found shocked us, because businesses were spending that money on finding way to make the world worse."

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I want to know why upstream bandwidth is so limited too. I have about 300gb of data at home, not much at all by hoarder standards. But there is no decent way for me to back it up to a remote server, because of low upload speed.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

On cable it’s because they allocate significantly more bandwidth towards download than upload. They could allocate them equally but most customers that are mostly just streaming or playing games care only about the download since it means they can stream/download things faster.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is a "if you build it, they will come" kind of thing. The Internet as we know it developed around the idea that the edge only consumes things. You don't host content there. At most, you give it access to web 2.0 sites where people put their content and then it's shared out from the central server.

It wasn't possible to build applications that were designed for the edge to spread the load around. It's not just a bandwidth problem, either. The slow pace of IPv6 adoption plays a role, and from what I've gathered from using it with Charter, they're only doing enough to make it work at the most basic level. The prefix they give doesn't allow for subnetting, and it appears to be dynamically assigned and can change. Setup isn't that hard, but it's not as easy as it needs to be for mass adoption.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you use something like borg backup the first upload will take you forever but after that all you have to upload is the data that changed. I had the same problem as you and that's how I solved it.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah it would take multiple days and the connection usually doesn't stay up that long. Any idea how well Borg deals with random disconnects and reconnects during a backup?

I do use Borg and like it in general.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Not sure, I used rclone to upload the archive. Took days for me as well but it worked.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

I got FIOS gigabit recently, and was very surprised to find that I now regularly get 300&400mb upload speeds

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because when cable service was built, the only upstream data was the tiny messages a cable box would send. https://superuser.com/a/1519918

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is decades later and most of that stuff has been replaced multiple times by now.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

And only in the past couple years have we been hitting that limit. Maintaining backwards compliance has been more important for cable service. Anyone who had a real need would have used T-carrier service, fiber, or multiple bonded lines, depending on year and budget.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

They exist to make ISPs more money. Duh

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 weeks ago

It’s about time.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Internet providers tried to implement data caps in my country but it got shot down, its sad you guys have to put up with that nonsense

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What's more disgusting is that cell providers have data caps on tethering. Why the fuck it should matter if I'm using one device via another or how that's even their business is beyond me. If I'm paying for data, just give me what I'm paying for. It shouldn't matter how it's distributed on my own private network/devices.

AT&T and T-Mobile both lost hundreds/thousands of dollars from me because I canceled due to this nonsense.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I remember experiencing that when I was in the US. Unlimited phone data is rare over here and I was having a blast with it in the US until I tethered my laptop with it to make videocalls to my ex. Two days later they send me a msg saying they will throttle my internet until next billing cycle, wth

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

If they let you use your phone for unlimited tethering, you have no incentive to also pay for their 5g home-wifi router.

[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

when i lived in Bangkok I had to pay for each local wifi IP from the standard router in my apartment which i had to buy from them in order to use a 4G internet subscription service.

It's even more ridiculous than the OP ridiculous greed shittification.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I pay (converted) USD20 for 600Mb download, 300Mb upload, completely unlimited

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The caps don’t go up either, even though shit uses more data. Xfinity has been at ~1TB forever despite that fact that 4k video uses insane amounts of data now and that downloading 1 video game can easily take 300 GB.

[–] GreyDawn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I remember when the ISP said that we would never need 1TB, it's like 1 million floppies. They knew we would be here needing that data when game downloads are now 150GB+

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

I actually have competition where I live. No data caps.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I hope they get rid of them.

[–] HorreC@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

this is being brought up from MSFS 2024, lot of nerds in planes were about to get hit with that limit and the FCC is like its time to shine!!