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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 118 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Have my second pc on running Linux mint for about half a year now and it’s been a pleasure so far.

I think I’ll be prepared to switch over fully in a year.

So fucking refuse to switch over to 11

[–] fernandorincon@reddthat.com 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I only have one computer that can run 11 because of the TPM module, it upgraded by accident.

All others will run linux

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty telling when the only way you can get your users to "upgrade" is by stealth. I wonder what the % of involuntarily upgraded win11 users is vs people who knowingly and willingly did so.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

I would've upgraded to 11, but either my computer doesn't support TPM or I just refused to turn it on. So instead I upgraded to Ubuntu. There are probably better distros but I had a limited about of time to fuck around trying them.

Mint is pretty nice, too. It felt familiar, as a windows user. But I kept installing stuff that broke the updater. So I switched and found it's me, not the updater, and I just need to do apt update/upgrade and dpkg -i regardless, but anyway now I'm on Ubuntu.

I still have my full windows install on an SSD somewhere if I had an emergency, but I haven't had any such emergency in about a year.

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[–] mortimer@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Similar to yourself, I switched to Mint about 9 months ago - initially on dual boot before ditching Windows altogether (the Windows updates kept fucking everything up). For the one piece of software that I missed on Windows 10 (Fugawi Digital Maps) I simply created a Windows 7 VM, that doesn't connect to the internet, and installed it on there. In fact, it has made me realise just how crap 10 was in comparison to 7. Linux has been a pleasure. Not only has it made computers interesting to me again, but I've learned a shitload along the way. It's nice to have a computer do what I want it to, rather than the other way around.

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[–] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 61 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Recently decided to try Linux for gaming. It wasn’t without a hitch or two, but largely fine. A number of games I play don’t even need an emulation tool like Proton.

The only reason windows was lying around was for gaming.

Looks like it’ll only get used for flight simulation.

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Summary: M$ hates their users more than ever.

[–] Potatisen@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think they think about the user at all.

They want that telemetry/ad money baby!

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the enshitification will continue until profits improve

[–] Potatisen@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

It's only enshitification for us.

[–] M600@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago

This is going to have a much bigger impact on the third would countries.

Most people here are not going to buy a new computer there are tons of people who buy second hand laptops that are old to be able to afford them.

Additionally people are not tech savvy and don’t understand the implication of this. When they see an ad that says to buy a new computer, they are going to dismiss it the same way they dismiss all the other ads online telling them to buy stuff.

[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Can't wait! Cheap linux laptops are abound!

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (9 children)

My biggest worry for this is, there's probably dozens of black hats out there that have found some very large exploit for Windows 10, and are holding off on abusing it until the day Microsoft ends support.

Currently, my plan is to make a partition for Linux Mint, set up dual boot, see how much of my daily computer obsession I can execute through there, and then try to slowly transition while slowly moving stuff from Windows. (I am vaguely worried I'll run into that Windows issue where files accessed from outside the OS login are security-restricted. That has even screwed up my Windows reformat fixes)

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

might be better to separate drives, windows has been known to fuck up Linux partitions recently.

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[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Frankly, I don't care.

I'm going to keep using Windows 10, updates or not, until I absolutely have no other choice, hoping against hope that the cracks in the Recall/AI monolith with have spread wide enough that a future Win 12 or 13 won't have them in it. I don't run a business. I don't keep sensitive information on any internet capable devices and my work uses the AS400 system.

I know Linux is a thing, and about a dozen years ago I spent a year using Ubuntu exclusively. While appreciating the OS, I got tired of chanting magic spells at computer every time I wanted to use software I liked on it, and so went back to Windows.

These days, despite being a reasonably tech savvy person approaching 60, I'm getting to the point where I'm just not up to learning/relearning an OS unless there is a critical need, and using Windows 10 there just isn't. At least not for me.

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[–] Cpo@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago (28 children)

A better use case for linux desktop could not have been invented.

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[–] corroded@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (23 children)

Win10 LTSC still has quite a few years left.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It’s not available for individual consumers though unless you pirate it, isn’t it? (which makes it perfectly good reason to pirate it)

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thank fuck, it'll stop asking for reboots.

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[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (10 children)

My steam deck has taught me that I'll be completely OK running linuxn(probably arch) as my daily driver with a win 11 dual boot (maybe just a vm?) for things that simply won't work on proton.

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 23 points 2 days ago (7 children)

SteamOS is not the same as its base Arch Linux. If you want something slightly easier but still Arch-based, try EndeavourOS (but please not Manjaro).

If you have the time, try switching on your own terms within the next year. It's almost guaranteed you'll run into issues, but trying to dual-boot now rather than later gives you all the time you need to figure it out before MS forces you on Windows 11.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This will be the best thing that ever happened to Linux. Hell, it might even make it up to 4.5% market share.

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[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm really excited for when the health authority I'm working for that uses win10 needs to frantically switch every machine to win11... Going to be such a relaxing time

/s

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You’re using a consumer version of Windows? Businesses can pay for extended support.

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[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Honestly, i predict people and businesses will keep using Win10 years after it's become unsafe. We've all seen the local warehouse still running WIndows 7, i'm thinking that scenario but for millions of users.

That's a cypersecurity problem, but what i'm most concerned with is the e-waste problem, because there's still going to be a lot of users that do replace their PC. There aren't enough Linux users to buy all the computers that will be rendered obsolete, and there won't be by then either. I myself am a new Linux user but i'm already covered, i don't need more computers, not even for cheap.

I just really hope this doesn't end with millions of good computers landfilled or parted. The third world already buys a lot of our e-waste, so i hope they'll get a crapton of relatively good computers for cheap and run either WIn10 or Linux

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[–] BellyPurpledGerbil@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Literally moved everything to Linux (Nobara) like 3 weeks ago and the only thing I can't get to work is Bizhawk which I can easily get around. It's insane how far Linux has come for gaming and whatnot.

[–] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I was thinking how, back in the day, the most popular web browser was IE, which wasn't on Linux. Now the most popular browser is Chrome, which has been on Linux since 2009 or whenever it was.

And of course lots of other big software is on Linux, like VS Code, Zoom, Slack, Skype. And Linux is on the Steam Deck. So yes I agree, Linux has come a long way.

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[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I'd rather pay for security updates than invite more AI and Microsoft sponsored spyware onto my computer...

[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Already switched to linux. I still have one windows drive that I haven't booted for about a year. Haven't relied on virtual machines or anything.

[–] bustAsh@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I've turned a few older neighbors on to Linux when they complained that window updates caused their PC's to run too slow.

I'd tell them 'before you go out and buy a new computer, let me install Linux if you don't like it, you lose nothing. In the end, each one of them was happy their computer was running like new again.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 14 points 10 hours ago

Cool, now I can try and remember to get fully migrated to Linux before October next year.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Hopefully instead of turning into a bunch of e-waste, a bunch of "useless" desktops flood refurbishers, and refurbished desktops become even cheaper. I wouldn't mind replacing my dying media server.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

every few years on Linux Discord groups across the internet

"Hi, Windows just stopped support, you guys got any suggestions?"

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"You should definitely try LFS, it's great and you'll have exactly what you want!"

"Arch btw! Customize everything and no bloat, hurr durr!"

"NixOS is the future, go for it!"

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[–] Flying_Hellfish@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

"Switch to Linux" is always the answer but a Nvidia graphics card, Stream Deck, and GoXLR are all things I use every single day, with no official linux support I'm never going to be able to use it as a daily driver. I have plenty of VMs that I run Linux on, but it's just a non-starter for my day to day gaming rig.

MS should have done what they said and made W10 "the last version of windows" instead of doing the typical corpo bullshit and coming out with an even worse version.

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[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So, could users just ignore that and just buy an anti-virus product or use 0patch? If it's like Widows 8, most apps will still be updated for a few years.

[–] Toes@ani.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Generally speaking that's ill-advised, antimalware tools rely on heuristics and active samples.

You don't wanna be the first person to get xyz virus. It's certainly better than nothing though.

Unless you have an app you can't live without Linux is the most accessible than it ever has been.

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