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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 119 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Have my second pc on running Linux mint for about half a year now and it’s been a pleasure so far.

I think I’ll be prepared to switch over fully in a year.

So fucking refuse to switch over to 11

[–] fernandorincon@reddthat.com 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I only have one computer that can run 11 because of the TPM module, it upgraded by accident.

All others will run linux

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty telling when the only way you can get your users to "upgrade" is by stealth. I wonder what the % of involuntarily upgraded win11 users is vs people who knowingly and willingly did so.

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[–] mortimer@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Similar to yourself, I switched to Mint about 9 months ago - initially on dual boot before ditching Windows altogether (the Windows updates kept fucking everything up). For the one piece of software that I missed on Windows 10 (Fugawi Digital Maps) I simply created a Windows 7 VM, that doesn't connect to the internet, and installed it on there. In fact, it has made me realise just how crap 10 was in comparison to 7. Linux has been a pleasure. Not only has it made computers interesting to me again, but I've learned a shitload along the way. It's nice to have a computer do what I want it to, rather than the other way around.

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[–] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Recently decided to try Linux for gaming. It wasn’t without a hitch or two, but largely fine. A number of games I play don’t even need an emulation tool like Proton.

The only reason windows was lying around was for gaming.

Looks like it’ll only get used for flight simulation.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)
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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Summary: M$ hates their users more than ever.

[–] Potatisen@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think they think about the user at all.

They want that telemetry/ad money baby!

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the enshitification will continue until profits improve

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[–] M600@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago

This is going to have a much bigger impact on the third would countries.

Most people here are not going to buy a new computer there are tons of people who buy second hand laptops that are old to be able to afford them.

Additionally people are not tech savvy and don’t understand the implication of this. When they see an ad that says to buy a new computer, they are going to dismiss it the same way they dismiss all the other ads online telling them to buy stuff.

[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Can't wait! Cheap linux laptops are abound!

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (9 children)

My biggest worry for this is, there's probably dozens of black hats out there that have found some very large exploit for Windows 10, and are holding off on abusing it until the day Microsoft ends support.

Currently, my plan is to make a partition for Linux Mint, set up dual boot, see how much of my daily computer obsession I can execute through there, and then try to slowly transition while slowly moving stuff from Windows. (I am vaguely worried I'll run into that Windows issue where files accessed from outside the OS login are security-restricted. That has even screwed up my Windows reformat fixes)

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (8 children)

might be better to separate drives, windows has been known to fuck up Linux partitions recently.

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[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Frankly, I don't care.

I'm going to keep using Windows 10, updates or not, until I absolutely have no other choice, hoping against hope that the cracks in the Recall/AI monolith with have spread wide enough that a future Win 12 or 13 won't have them in it. I don't run a business. I don't keep sensitive information on any internet capable devices and my work uses the AS400 system.

I know Linux is a thing, and about a dozen years ago I spent a year using Ubuntu exclusively. While appreciating the OS, I got tired of chanting magic spells at computer every time I wanted to use software I liked on it, and so went back to Windows.

These days, despite being a reasonably tech savvy person approaching 60, I'm getting to the point where I'm just not up to learning/relearning an OS unless there is a critical need, and using Windows 10 there just isn't. At least not for me.

[–] glaber@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (7 children)

The days of "chanting magic spells at computer" being synonymous with the Linux experience are far gone. I recommend you just make a Fedora installer and take it for a spin on the live test system! You don't need to commit to it to just try it

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[–] Cpo@lemm.ee 33 points 1 month ago (28 children)

A better use case for linux desktop could not have been invented.

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[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (12 children)

Oh, look, a post on Lemmy about Windows. I'm excited to engage in a unique, nuanced discussion about the topic of the post!

So glad I'm not on Reddit where people just repeat the same predictable thing over and over then jerk each other off.

(I use Linux too. But I hate seeing copy+paste Linux shilling on every Windows post. It's preaching to the choir and uninspired.)

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Linux. The operating system is extremely nuanced, and without a solid grasp of command-line interfaces and system architecture, most of the concepts will go over a typical user’s head. There's also the community's open-source philosophy, which is intricately woven into its development—its principles draw heavily from the ideals of free software and collaborative coding. The true enthusiasts grasp this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to appreciate the depths of these systems, to realize that they’re not just functional—they represent a radical shift in computing. As a consequence, people who dislike Linux truly ARE uninformed; of course, they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the brilliance behind commands like "sudo," which itself is a profound commentary on user permissions and control. I'm smirking right now just imagining those confused novices scratching their heads in bewilderment as the power of the terminal unfolds before them. What fools... how I pity them. And yes, by the way, I DO have a Linux tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the tech-savvy eyes only—and even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

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[–] corroded@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (29 children)

Win10 LTSC still has quite a few years left.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It’s not available for individual consumers though unless you pirate it, isn’t it? (which makes it perfectly good reason to pirate it)

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thank fuck, it'll stop asking for reboots.

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

inb4 reboot to install windows 11

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[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (10 children)

My steam deck has taught me that I'll be completely OK running linuxn(probably arch) as my daily driver with a win 11 dual boot (maybe just a vm?) for things that simply won't work on proton.

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 23 points 1 month ago (7 children)

SteamOS is not the same as its base Arch Linux. If you want something slightly easier but still Arch-based, try EndeavourOS (but please not Manjaro).

If you have the time, try switching on your own terms within the next year. It's almost guaranteed you'll run into issues, but trying to dual-boot now rather than later gives you all the time you need to figure it out before MS forces you on Windows 11.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This will be the best thing that ever happened to Linux. Hell, it might even make it up to 4.5% market share.

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

Honestly, i predict people and businesses will keep using Win10 years after it's become unsafe. We've all seen the local warehouse still running Windows 7, i'm thinking that scenario but for millions of users.

That's a cybersecurity problem, but what i'm most concerned with is the e-waste problem, because there's still going to be a lot of users that do replace their PC. There aren't enough Linux users to buy all the computers that will be rendered obsolete, and there won't be by then either. I myself am a new Linux user but i'm already covered, i don't need more computers, not even for cheap.

I just really hope this doesn't end with millions of good computers landfilled or parted. The third world already buys a lot of our e-waste, so i hope they'll get a crapton of relatively good computers for cheap and run either Win10 or Linux

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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 17 points 1 month ago

Cool, now I can try and remember to get fully migrated to Linux before October next year.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm really excited for when the health authority I'm working for that uses win10 needs to frantically switch every machine to win11... Going to be such a relaxing time

/s

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[–] BellyPurpledGerbil@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Literally moved everything to Linux (Nobara) like 3 weeks ago and the only thing I can't get to work is Bizhawk which I can easily get around. It's insane how far Linux has come for gaming and whatnot.

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[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Already switched to linux. I still have one windows drive that I haven't booted for about a year. Haven't relied on virtual machines or anything.

[–] bustAsh@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I've turned a few older neighbors on to Linux when they complained that window updates caused their PC's to run too slow.

I'd tell them 'before you go out and buy a new computer, let me install Linux if you don't like it, you lose nothing. In the end, each one of them was happy their computer was running like new again.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I'd rather pay for security updates than invite more AI and Microsoft sponsored spyware onto my computer...

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Hopefully instead of turning into a bunch of e-waste, a bunch of "useless" desktops flood refurbishers, and refurbished desktops become even cheaper. I wouldn't mind replacing my dying media server.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

every few years on Linux Discord groups across the internet

"Hi, Windows just stopped support, you guys got any suggestions?"

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"You should definitely try LFS, it's great and you'll have exactly what you want!"

"Arch btw! Customize everything and no bloat, hurr durr!"

"NixOS is the future, go for it!"

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