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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 90 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That's why uncensored social media like Mastodon, Lemmy and the wider Fediverse is so valuable, as we can get direct reports from the people around, without being filtered or censored by anyone.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 67 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'd say the whole free software culture is about breaking free from the confines of large companies and whoever owns the communication platforms. They usually aren't motivated by freedom and what their "users" want/need. Free software has been around since the 80s? The Fediverse is available for us, too. I'd say people who like freedom have some opportunities to enjoy it.

It doesn't really replace proper journalism, though. For example all of the local news about my city and area sadly aren't shared on any free platform. But it works alright for some other topics like IT news.

[–] DharkStare@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"It doesn't really replace proper journalism though"

Yeah, that's an even bigger problem that doesn't really have much of a solution. Things like Fediverse might allow for the distribution of news outside the control of corporations but it doesn't help in actually getting access to unbiased journalism.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm glad the Fediverse doesn't have any "algorithm". But still, it's a filter bubble. And very biased. And it has the same issues as every other place on the internet. People like to spread emotional stuff, like to complain and mainly post negative stuff, because they're more motivated to write something when they're agitated. And less so in other cases... I don't think there is a solution to this.

My current way is to (occasionally) put away my phone and talk to my neighbors and friends. See what they're up to. But in turn that doesn't inform me about world politics (or tech news) 😉 And to read some random forums and blogs where people write longer, and well reasoned articles. Yeah and I also consume social media (Lemmy) and regular media. And lots of Youtube. I still feel like I'm super biased. But I'm stopping myself from reading too much news anyways. I don't think it's been healthy for me.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

uncensored social media like

Facebook!

Yeah, it cuts both ways.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] orrk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

true, 4-Chan!

much better news source!

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (9 children)

It's still extremely censored

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[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 79 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Propublica is a great nonprofit investigative journalism site that could use your support! They often partner with local news agencies to help give them interesting content and further the impact.

Their stories hold powerful entities accountable for pollution and corruption and have a really good track record of initiating legal or regulatory consequences.

Also there's never a paywall

[–] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

There should be a post about all the non-profit, grassroots, funded exclusively by the people journalist sites and media that people know of.

We need to share and learn about all the media we should be supporting and getting our news from. It's one of the foundations for an actual democracy and a better society.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago

I also like AllSides, which I believe is part news agragator and part unbiased reporting.

It give you unbiased headlines, then links to the L/C/R articles that they come from:

And also articles like “Why CBS and Fox Selectively Editing Interviews Is Bad for Voters” that cut out the bias.

[–] gregor@gregtech.eu 3 points 1 month ago

Wow, this seems like something I could donate to (once I unbroke myself)

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When CNN was bought a couple years ago one of the biggest investors in WB (obviously a right wing billionaire) flat out said the goal was to make CNN more like Faux News...

And people are still shocked CNN acts like Faux News now.

The mainstream media will always want to drag both parties as far to the right as possible, because you don't become rich enough to own mainstream media if you value literally anything over money.

Edit:

We're fifty fifth out of 180

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Press_Freedom_Index

Well behind every other first world country

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (4 children)

We have state funded news where I live and I feel like it's keeping the other commercial news channels in check in term of tone. It's obviously not without biases but it's a lot better than the situation in the US in my opinion.

That said the current coalition wants to cut funding to it because of the unfavourable coverage.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you Canadian? Because defund the CBC ( gov funded - not operated) has been increasing in volume by the bros here over the past few years.

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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

I still love the BBC. It's not without bias, but still keeps largely to a culture of don't directly lie, in an English way, so I feel I can read between the lines when they try to push a viewpoint their facts don't support.

Bit by bit the ruin of their app is pushing me away, though.

[–] oktoberpaard@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago

I agree. I think people might have the idea that the states dictates the contents, but that’s not at all how it works in well functioning democracies. It’s there to serve the public interest: to have a relatively unbiased news outlet that’s accessible to all and without (or with little) commercial interests. It coexists with commercial news outlets.

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[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Before shrugging and moving on - ask yourself if you support any smaller private media companies in any way at all - enabling them to bring you news with less bias, less agenda, and more fact checking.

It could be by viewing their ads with your ad blocker off, paying a subscription, or donating.

If you are unwilling to support any such media company in any way, I don't think a complaint that media is all consolidated and doesn't have your interests at heart is particularly compelling.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

there is one local private media thingy locally. I'd support him, but dude is a far right crank.

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[–] sakodak@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And the same people that own the media also own and operate the state.

I'm so glad this stuff is starting to finally bubble to the top of the public consciousness.

Now, everybody read Marx.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

And the same people that own the media also own and operate the state.

Hey now. They don't own and operate the state. They simply receive large low-interest loans to trade parcels of real estate that happen to account for the overwhelming bulk of developed property in the country. It's you, the people, who are afforded the opportunity to meet and choose between the California Criminal Prosecutor and the New York Land Baron.

Just look out! One of them is a soulless fascist who will invoke the powers of the state to terrorize migrants, minorities, and labor activists. Meanwhile, the other is a goofy dimwit who will be too hobbled by bureaucracy to effectively delivery any of their campaign promises.

Find out which one during our Full Team Electoral Spectacle News Coverage! And remember, if the wrong person wins, you know know exactly who to blame. <JillStein.jpg>

Now, everybody read Marx.

Nice try. But I have it on good authority that learning to read makes you a Communist, so I dodged that bullet early on.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There used to be laws in place that prevented this, but our government is far too corrupt and were paid off to do away with them via the 1996 telecommunications act, which did several good things, but opened the doors wide open to allow conglomerations the go ahead to buy and own many more news outlets and communications outlets across the country.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

And Citizens United

[–] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you don't pay to get your news, someone else does, and that someone might not have the same interests as you do.

Support media initiatives that are funded exclusively by the people, not by the state or the oligarchs.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

you think you would get anything else if you do pay? honest question. what incentive is there for "individually funded media" to report anything better? In fact, why would they NOT sensationalize stuff? it leads to better sales and a stronger reader retention.

it's not the solution you think it is, your best bet is to go to news aggregators like ground news and even that isn't a 100% solution.

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 month ago (7 children)

You might be missing the point of the OP, your news aggregators is an aggregation of a story you're being told.

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[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 18 points 1 month ago

And as an alternative people migrate towards social media that's owned by even less, even larger companies and filled with false, emotional clickbait and algorithms that want you to stay within your dedicated filter bubble.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You see, corporate monopolies are different than the state because

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

They are actually much different, as the state owes you an accounting of what it does and the people decide who to vote into control of it.

Corporate monopolies are ran like fascist states.

[–] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Till you realize that you actually only have 2-3 realistic voting options in every country and that these candidates are funded and promoted by said corporate monopolies. This is in fact a necessary prerequisite for a successful election campaign. Not to mention the revolving door.

Different roles, same people.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How many voting options do you have for CEO of Xitter?

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[–] orrk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Oh, the "no party tailor made to do exactly what I want" argument.

see, that's still 2-3 more realistic choices than the literal corpo-fascism that forms around monopolies, but please, keep repeating the BS line literally made by anti-democratic institutions whose entire purpose is to make you a lethargic apathetic voter

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

The state and the press is owned by the same small group of people.

[–] 4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 month ago

This is why it’s so important to support independent news outlets. E.g. Kyiv Independent in Ukraine or Zetland in Denmark. I’m fine paying for independent journalism that’s really well made. But not for copy-pasted propaganda.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Free to be overrun with capitalist interests.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Freedom^TM brought to you by The Panopticon Corporation. Do what you like, we're just watching!

Also in partnership with Justice Industries. Come watch the latest Tribute to Justice as well punish the guilty LIVE! ON! AIR! If you love people getting what's coming to them, you won't want to miss T2J!

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yes, we're all "free" to CONSUME

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay but have you had a refreshing Coca Cola today?

mmmm Coca Cola

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That reminds me of that new game show with Shaq... they stop the fucking show and thank a sponsor for a freebie answer. Like, you can see the light leave the host's eyes as she says "thanks, Pepsi..." when the show stops for the sponsor event.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Ssshhhh... No more observation, only sleep.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

six? wow it's more diverse than I thought!

oh wait they all have the same values.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

As George Carlin said, they don't need to have a conspiracy to know what's in their best interest.

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Could we crowd source some press? How much money should a journalist who isn't biased be making? What kind of operation costs are there?

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure the goal of public radio and television is basically this. Maybe see how you can help your local stations.

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