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I guess it’s self explanatory but I keep seeing all this stuff about how everyone is moving from Reddit to lemmy and I’m wondering if anyone knows if that’s really what’s happening. If you have numbers that’s even better.

Thanks!

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[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I seriously doubt reddit has seen any significant drop in traffic or unique visitors. Looking back at some of the subs I frequented, they're all business as usual. The mods all backed down the second that they had their mod status threatened, as expected. Almost all of the users I saw that said they were leaving on July 1 when their 3rd party app stopped working are still there.

I deleted my account and moved here, as clearly a lot of people did, but it's a drop in the ocean and that's not even to say that the people that moved here have stopped using reddit.

[–] Willdrick@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I consider it a win nontheless, people like me or you, who were actively engaged on reddit and did "what felt right" (deleting comments and leaving reddit) are probably the kind of people that might make for good conversation and good content (be it links to cool stuff, art, or just rants).

We might get some "bad apples" (trolls, botters, and such), but all in all, I see it as a far healthier alternative to grow gradually from a core of users that was either here from the start, or that moved to the Fediverse to take back a bit of the "old web" feel, where people come together to share cool stuff and ideas.

RIP Aaron Swartz, we'll keep the old reddit spirit here on Lemmy.

[–] The_Nostromo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I can say that since Joey shut down my reddit use has dropped 95% at least. I hardly looked at reddit on the computer unless I was searching for an answer to something. I tried the reddit app, it runs like ass on my phone so I'm pretty much done spending time on that site unless I've googled something and the answer is in a reddit thread.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I'm not catholic so technically

[–] Famko@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Lemmy has exploded in popularity over the last few weeks, that is the mass exodus that most people are talking about.

[–] LuckyCharmsNSoyMilk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still use Reddit on the computer but most of my mobile use is gone.

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[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

More of a small diaspora sort of situation I think, at least relative to the amount of people that use Reddit.

As to where besides Lemmy/Kbin, there's some mentions across similar discussions of going to Tildes, Squabbles.io, Raddle, Discord, and I'd suspect a tiny minority may have gone back to plain old forums and some may be working on setting some up (e.g. Jellyfin's devs went ahead & did so). If I were to guess without hard numbers, I would guess that the majority that made any move may have simply gone to Discord, with another large amount giving Lemmy/Kbin a go, and a smaller amount of folks going to the others mentioned (i.e. Tildes/Squabbles/Raddle/other forums or trying to set up forums).

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it's absolutely not a mass exodus. The people who cared about what reddit was doing were the vast minority of it's userbase.

Reddit had already written us off because they knew not enough people would leave for it to matter. It's not like the C-suite are idiots.

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[–] ShooBoo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

People have become more open to "testing the waters" of other apps. Sure they are still using Reddit and Twitter etc... but many have also started playing with lemmy, mastodon etc... I have no idea where this will end up but there is a shift of willingness to try something else and that is good start.

[–] nydas@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

While I think we can agree it’s not a mass exodus, and as a percentage it’s fractional, I would be really curious on the relative percentage of mods and higher activity users.

I wouldn’t be surprised if these were proportionally higher than the total percentage as they would be more attuned to what was happening.

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I joined right around the blackout, and the amount of content, especially content I enjoy has increased considerably. Everytime I open the app there are new things to read, which definitely wasn't the case a month ago.

So mass exodus, nah, even if every new user of Lemmy, Kbin and all the other alternatives left Reddit completely we're a single digit percentage at most. But mass adoption, definitely. With the smaller user base pre-apiexit its much easier to notice all the new contributing users.

[–] SCmSTR@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

It has been an absolute gift to be part of and watching that/this growth. Seeing posts on a new platform go from something like 10/day to the, now, probably, hundreds, if not thousands per day.

I remember in late May/early June this year (2023, when this place really came alive, for archival sake), seeing the posts on Reddit about the ACTUAL api changes, then that evolving into a bit of vocal protest, which surprisingly evolved into an ACTUAL protest with a lot more information why. It was the last straw for me. Everything the world has shit on me and my generation and lifetime, all of it from selfishness and ignorance and greed. Then musk bought Twitter and immediately drove it face first into the ground at high speed and got support by most of the worst demographics on the face of the planet - and I didn't even care about Twitter. But, a long-standing media giant, brought down by a billionaire simply because he had the money? It was if all of our intuitive fears about the world being awful just came true in real time, over, and over, and over, and over. The past fifteen years have been so bad, it's actually insane, and it's nuts to think that it can still be way way worse.

And then along came this dried out, greedy ass, shameless, two faced, wannabe psychopath who IDOLIZED Musk, Hoffman/spez, and just shits in the faces of everybody on Reddit that ever cared about anything. The very people trying to make the world a better place at least for a little while, pleading with him not to be THAT greedy and shitty. And he just spread open his wonderbread buttcheeks, stared us all in the eyes, looked away, smiled into a mirror, and blasted out what was left of his rotten, liquefied spine. RIP Aaron.

Everybody saw it coming, yet we were still all shocked at how blatantly greedy and manipulative every single event was. Now, he's just trying to wait it out and let it quiet down.

I'm still convinced this or an evolution of this will be Web3.0. The evolution past megacorps as a result of direct abuse of power, anti-competitive and other dark behaviors, anti privacy, ultra-rich maximizations of profits, and late stage capitalism. Decentralization and a reinvigoration and re-emphasis on integrity and quality, put truly into the hands of the users by stripping abilities of people like musk to literally capitalize on and destroy is hugely paramount in the next step. We all want it, the world needs it, and maybe the Fediverse is it. Maybe, maybe not. It feels like the right direction and I've had enough bullshit to know it.

[–] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's all relative.

For lemmy it's been a mass exodus. I was on this part of the fediverse before all this, and it's a fundamentally different thing now than it was. There were maybe a dozen servers, most of them didn't have a whole lot going on. Now there's millions of active users on thousands of servers.

That might not be a mass exodus for reddit, but it sure is one for lemmy.

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[–] FaizalR@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@anarchoplayworker I don't have any number but I do come here from time to time when I'm on laptop. Hope there will be a good app for iOS soon.

[–] wyrd@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Memmy for Lemmy is already in the App Store! Loving it so far.

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[–] r00ty@kbin.life 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think I'd call it close to an exodus. But, really that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to us if people are leaving reddit. What matters is that there's enough people here to create a feed with interesting subjects that we can reply to, or we can create content and people will likely reply to it.

We're at that critical mass now where the content isn't really a problem. There's plenty.

While we have that happening, over time as reddit do more corporately motivated rubbish to their users, they will be looking for alternatives and the threadiverse should be a tempting one.

[–] Naminreb@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Doesn’t matter if it’s a mass exodus. If we want to use that word: It’s not like all of Egypt left Egypt because of the Pharaoh…this is still a good place to be in. Away from the pettiness I see in the main media.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The total number of users across all Lemmy instances is about half a million, from memory? There was a post about it not so long ago. A quick google's search shows Reddit has 55 million daily active users.

It's fuck all, at least for now.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's definitely a drop in the bucket, though I wonder what the Creator/Contributor/Lurker percentages are on Reddit vs Lemmy (1%/9%/90% is the normal percentages I see related to those groups). If we assume a larger number of Creators and Contributors left Reddit (presumably for Lemmy), then even though Lemmy has less total users, it may have a higher amount of actual content creators and contributors. Though what that actually translates into over time is questionable.

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[–] SapienSRC@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I deleted my account the other day actually, once the backup was complete. I'm sure most will stay on Reddit but honest Lemmy is better off. Sure, there isn't as much content but most of the content on Reddit isn't really worth any one's time anyway.

New communities are popping up all the time here and it's great to see.

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[–] freamon@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Accidental Renaissance on Reddit was set to private by its mods, who opened up here instead. I don't know how subscribers on Reddit there was, but yesterday's surge now means there's 1659 Lemmy subscribers.
So yes, there's some movement, but I doubt it's a "mass exodus"

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