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I think I’ve settled on the latter. Disagreement is maybe best communicated by the absence of an upvote? And downvotes work best when they signal something that is just off base, and while not reportable, is not appreciated at a broad cultural level.

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[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The only times I've really been downvoting is if someone is giving out completely incorrect information, like in a support thread or something, and confusing matters. It's not a personal judgement or anything, just trying to keep things clear for the person asking the question.

If I disagree with a comment, well no biggie. Sometimes it's worth discussing like adults and sometimes it's just a subjective opinion. If it's offensive, I'll report it and block the user.

[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

Depends on what kind of "I don't agree". If somebody asks for people's favorite food, I'm not going to dislike all other answers... But if it's a more serious question, and an answer just has a really bad take that I don't agree with, that's getting a dislike.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

On Reddit, up/down was intended to be used as relevant or not relevant. Then Facebook came around with the Like button and changed the standard.

Coming from the perspective of Digg, Reddit was about sharing external content and giving something an upvote was used to promote that content while a downvote was used to discourage that content from being seen. It was democratic in that the users were relied on for ranking posts without the need for moderators having to establish rules and remove things.

Then Reddit employed an algorithm and most people visit Popular and All making it a shitstorm of irrelevance. People upvote stuff they like that has absolutely no reason to be posted in a sub. Never mind everything that's gone on with Reddit in recent months, it's users' inability to properly use the upvote / downvote buttons that has caused the site to become absolute trash.

Here, we have the added tool of the Star to indicate that we like something while at the same time downvoting it because it's not relevant to the sub. The problem is that the vast majority of people don't want to think about or put any effort into anything. At this point, anything that looks like a thumbs up is getting selected because they like it.

If you disagree with someone, you shouldn't do anything unless you have something to say. Engage with them in conversation and express your point of view - this is "social media". If others feel your point is relevant you should get an upvote; if you're off topic you should get a downvote.

Reading over the other comments here, I think most people are expressing a similar perspective. It's about rankings, not feelings.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I think someone else mentioned the same here, but as I've browsed down the opinions, I wonder if it's good for different communities to have their own subculture on what votes mean.

For sure, outsiders dropping by might vote 'counter-culturally' and unhelpfully, but you can get a general sense of understanding in a community.

For r/all-alike stuff I'm sure things are different.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Downvotes = disabled on my instance

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Haha yep.

And beehaw too. Wonder how many others.

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[–] ironcrotch@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

More like get this shit outa here

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Downvote for bad technical advise, I think the person is a bad actor/bad faith argument, or if the person turns ~~hostile~~ to ad hominem attacks. I try not to downvote if I'm putting the effort into debating someone.

edit: for clarity

[–] GerryMandering@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I agree with this. If I'm scrolling through a Linux forum and someone is stating something demonstrably incorrect, I don't want someone to stumble on the post and run into difficulties so I always downvote that particular post and upvote the posts with the right answer.

Now, if I disagree with someone that's different.

Like if I'm in a thread about your favourite tv show, I don't downvote someone I disagree with because it's subjective. I might upvote the people I agree with, but it doesn't seem fair to downvote someone's opinion.

But some things are either right or wrong, and your example of bad technical advice is one such thing

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[–] asparagus9001@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's weird how nobody ever goes off on these philosophical treatises about what a downvote is REALLY supposed to be for unless they copped a shit ton of downvotes for their awful takes

To quote the famed philosopher T. Soprano: "Alright, but you gotta get over it."

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I don't that's entirely fair or true across the board. I haven't received a ton of downvotes or anything, but realised that I didn't know what to do with the downvote and that some were clearly using downvotes where I don't think I would have.

For my, it was more sympathetic. I was thinking about people who do get downvoted and whether I'm ok with that.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

Upvoted. Feel bad that i disagree. 😵

[–] astroturds@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

I only downvote hateful stuff or obvious bots and spam. The same as I do on anything with upvotes and downvotes.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I like it to gauge what the general consensus is. Agree or not.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think of it like a digital facial expression. Upvoting is akin to smiling or conveying some other positive emotion like affirmation or understanding (even if the subject matter is inherently negative). Downvote is the opposite- someone says something irl that makes you frown or grimmace, or you know they're telling you a lie, your expression can convey that without a single word. Here, downvote.

There's no real etiquette - if you feel like you want to give an up or down vote, just do it and don't put too much thought into it.

[–] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's some part of my brain that applies display:none to the upvote/downvote function on every platform.

So if I don't vote on your content it's not because I hate it. My brain is just wired to automatically edit out anything that's not content. Mostly this means ads, but voting features seem to have been caught in the net too.

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