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[–] Tobberone@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Aren't you afraid you will need to change the (ICE) motor? Those are costly and tend to fail more often than batteries, you know?

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think that is the question. The Nissan Leaf gave the entire industry a bad taste because they did not (and still do not) actively cool their batteries. I'm not sure we ever recovered from that. They lasted like 40k miles. So that's the perception that we're battling, that batteries only last ~100k miles vs. ICE powertrains that last twice as long.

[–] Tobberone@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

That didn't stop Nissan to conclude that the batteries lasted twice as long as the rest of the car. The number of (newish# cars taken out of traffic each year is higher than we expect.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I've got a bag of potatoes in my cupboard that will outlast a Renault tho

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Funny. I've been driving Renault pretty much my entire life, starting with a then 16 year old Renault 19. Which lasted until I totalled it in a one-sided accident 4 years later (misjudged the distance to a fence)

Only issue I ever had with that car was a broken drive shaft. And that was the worst thing that I've ever encountered with Renault cars.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If you've been driving old Renaults your whole life I absolutely 100000 percent guaran-fuckin-tee that's not the only problem you've had

Source - multiple Renault owner over the decades

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

Nope, that's been seriously the only problem I've ever had with Renaults. Maybe I've been very lucky. But with my Clio previously and now my Megane that I've had for five years now, I haven't had a single issue. *knocks on wood*

[–] Podunk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Ive got an old penske moving truck. Its a mac with a renault engine and transmission and we've had since the mid 90's. It is bulletproof. My only complaint is you have to double clutch to shift. I equally hate and love that old piece of shit. It will never die.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

IDK much about Renault's, or cars for that matter, but isn't renault one of the badges which is really just a badge now?

My grandfather swore by renaults. They were expensive because they were imported from France (to Australia).

Now, they're one of the cheapest cars on the road because they're manufactured in Korea. They have terrible resale value because rightly or wrongly, they're perceived to be very poor quality.

What I mean to say is, does renault the company really make cars, or do they just license their badge to whoever can make the cheapest Megane? I honestly don't know but that's the impression I get.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's definitely not a rebadge car company. I highly doubt a rebadger would have been able to win Car of the Year with the Scenic this year. I believe the Clio, Megane and the Scenic cars are produced in Romania.

I didn't say they were a rebadge car company. Just pointing out that if you buy a Koleos in Australia, it will have been manufactured in Korea.

[–] gasgiant@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's odd as the insurance costs for electric vehicles keep going up. A large chuck of which is the cost for repair or the likelihood of minor damage (e.g battery pack) resulting in a write off.

https://www.ft.com/content/9a353ff6-ce86-4c53-b736-a1f24fdabe80

So in a perfect world where the EV works perfectly all it's life then they probably will.

However in a world with other drivers and faults that even Renault can't repair in their own cars resulting in write-offs (can't find the article on that one) then we aren't there yet.

Not anti electric vehicles just this statement at this moment is false.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You're comparing two different scenarios. Let's say you have two cups, one is made out of paper and the other is made of glass. They're 6 feet off a concrete patio. Wind isn't an issue.

Let them sit forever, and the paper one will disintegrate long before the glass does. Tip them over, and the glass one will shatter.