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[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh man, if only biden knew someone in a position of power that had a responsibility to not let that occur. Oh well. So sick of democrats throwing up their hands and tripping over their dicks. We're going to shrug our way into global fascism.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 144 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

The supreme Court says you can just kill them bro

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 53 points 9 hours ago

Presidential act

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Put the bloated military budget to good use for once.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

For once? Are you not familiar with the whole situation in Ukraine?

[–] match@pawb.social 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

we're barely using our military there, as a percentage

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Guess you don't know what using the military means. We are financing and supplying them only.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The phrase used was bloated military budget, which definitely includes supplying and financing.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 59 minutes ago

No it doesn't. Most are government contracts and funding is from congress. A completely different pot from the defense budget. We don't sell U.S. weapons to foreign countries. We sell them watered down versions.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 24 points 6 hours ago

Five words: I feared for my country

[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 78 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

There is zero chance that there is not going to be fairly significant violence from Trump's supporters between November and January.

It will happen, absolutely no matter what.

Either he's going to lose, in which case they're going to engage in retaliatory and/or insurrectionary violence, or he's going to win (or be handed the win by the Supreme Court Rubber-stamping Service), in which case they're going to engage in celebratory, very enthusiastic and likely officially sanctioned violence.

That's it. At this point, there is no third option. Trump, in his pathological narcissism and complete lack of empathy or sound reason, has fostered an atmosphere of anger and hatred, and it's not a question of if it will result in violence and murder, but simply of when and of what specifically will touch it off.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 39 points 9 hours ago

At least trump isn't the incumbent this time, Biden can let the National Guard deal with them. FAFO

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Third Option: Trump dies this year, and again violence.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Surely someone really wants to impress a 20-something actress.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Trump has (Jodie Foster)ed hate and division

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

or he’s going to win (or be handed the win by the Supreme Court Rubber-stamping Service),

I agree with your comment in general and apologize for what may sound like a bit of a flippant reply, but I actually think what would worry me the most is if it it goes to SCOTUS and they somehow do NOT install Trump. I think the super-faithful deep-state-believers would lose their effing minds at that turn of events - this is where I would expect to see the violence ramping up the fastest.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No. That's a way better option than a fascist dictator actually gaining power.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

Oh for sure, and I wasn't suggesting otherwise.

I expect a more immediate and flagrant violent event in that case vs the other two though.

[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 2 points 3 hours ago

Unfortunately, there's likely some truth to that. In spite of the SC fairly consistently destroying the rule of law to rule on Trump's behalf, if even one time they rule against him, even on just one ruling that's so vividly obvious that the otherwise wholly corrupt and compromised SC can't possibly cobble together an excuse to rule in Trump's favor, that really is likely to touch off more violence quicker than just about anything else.

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 62 points 9 hours ago (13 children)

We need a landslide for Kamala - Enough to scare at least a few republican SC members out of giving the win to the GoP out of fear of lynching when a bunch of states inevitably refuse to certify results

Then we need to be prepared for an actual attack on the government and pissed off Trumpers killing citizens

Can't assume anything but worst case and prepare for it as the GoP is in full Hitler's Nazi Party mode

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Can’t assume anything but worst case and prepare for it

Stock up for a couple months worth of supplies and food. Ensure you have some alternative ways to heat and cook food. Have some self defense strategies/supplies. It is a good idea to prepare for an emergency anyway. Worst case scenario, you are prepared for a natural disaster or power outage or a strike.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 50 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

He’s even heard reports this Trump guy is a bit mean.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I have an idea, let’s ask Mike Pence 📿

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 49 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

You've got exceptionally broad powers, King Biden. What are you going to do about it?

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[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 32 points 7 hours ago

What gave it away? Was it the sedition and attempted coup after the last election?

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 28 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I don't doubt there are lots of contingency planning going on, and it's not always good to make those plans public, but I'd sure feel better knowing there are plans to combat the certain fuckery

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Leading up to Jan 6th there were weeks of MAGA's posting openly about their plans across social media, then the day came and it turned out there was zero contingency planning.

The most powerful "intelligence" and surveillance apparatus in history just let it happen... I know this, because I live on the opposite side of the planet, and knew a coup attempt was guaranteed from nothing but reddit links to other social media.

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 22 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Main concern is the "Refuse to certify -> Goes to SC -> SC hands the win to the GoP" type fuckery that could happen. No idea what their plans are for that. Outside of that, I assume there will be a lot of military on standby but not obviously so

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

SCOTUS better be watching their backs if they pull that shit if Kamala has more than 10% more votes. 10% is a landslide.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

She won't though. She's barely ahead in polling and with voter suppression this lead disappears. I absolutely guarantee there will be some votes "lost" this time as well.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

The number of votes where though?

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 13 points 9 hours ago

Ya know, I kinda feel the same way, based on specific things said and done by the GOP and their candidates. Well, actually it's more of a thought, or belief, based on factual evidence.

[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Stochastic terrorism. That's what he and Vance are knowingly exercising. That seems like something that should be dealt with, regardless of the political implications. People have died because of Trumps liberal and deliberate use of this form of communication to his batshit legion.

But then again, nothing makes sense any more. The reality that this race is as close as it is sums it all up, I suppose. To quote NOFX, The idiots are taking over.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Republicunts may discover that they have no monopoly on violence.

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[–] nemonic187@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

It won’t be. Those mouthbreathers are gonna be in for quite the surprise.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

sometimes ya gotta fight for whats right even if youre leaning left.

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