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UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer has written an op-ed piece in The Sun promising "I will not sacrifice Great British industry to the drum-banging, finger-wagging Net Zero extremists"

Which means he's willing to sacrifice all the industry to appease the fossil fuels industry.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 hours ago

This man should be tarred and feathered and strung up in the town square for all to see

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

“~~Peace~~ Prosperity for our time!”

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

And no prosperity for the time that comes after it.

Every now and then I find this cathartic to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyQGrq-Y7gg

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Mainstream politicians cannot afford to tank the economy or they are soon out of a job.

How can they achieve net zero without regular folks losing their jobs? It’s hard to put into practice.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

You can't just make and sell cars as a superior mode of transportation and propose policy that effectively is net zero horses as human and cargo transport. Think of all the ferriers, oat farmers, and veterinarians that would put out of a job.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

If you proposed to ban horses in 1904 you’d get laughed out of parliament.

Democratically elected politicians don’t have the ability to impose top-down policies opposed by the people who elected them.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It’s really not that hard. It might take time but wind and solar (plus battery backup) are already the cheapest forms of energy. And not doing it is going to be way more expensive. The UK already gets the remnants of Atlantic hurricanes. Have fun dealing with them not being remnants. Or if the AMOC collapses and it’s 30°C colder in parts of Europe.

We already have the technology to get there. It’ll take time/money to manufacture and deploy it but the UK could probably cover its energy needs with wind alone. Sorry if that means BP goes under but they had an oil spill near where I live so zero pity from me.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 hours ago

This is a lot more complicated. The jobs in the oil and gas industry are well paid and will be hard to replace for a number of communities. A refinery creates a lot of union jobs, with great pay for example. Combustion engines also provide more jobs then electric drive trains. So fewer jobs in the car industry. Also companies like Rolls Royce. It is hard to find a replacement for jet engines, which can do something similar. Airbus in general is a big employer in the UK, especially with the entire supply chain.

That is just some stuff coming to mind. It really is not that simple. Obviously there are new green jobs created, but those jobs are not necessarily in the same places, as the old fossil fuel ones.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What good is it to get a labour government if labour is just becoming another conservative party?

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 2 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

becoming

It's been this way for nearly thirty years. Vote Conservative or vote Slightly-More-Agreeable-Conservative, and with FPTP, your third-party vote may as well have been for Father Christmas for all the difference it will make.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 minutes ago

Um…is Father Christmas an option?

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 1 points 46 minutes ago

Lib Dems: "oh for fucks sake, this country is going to be handed to us looking like prophylactic bin of a whorehouse."

…he wants to have net negative carbon emissions… right /s

This is par for the course for Keir

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 1 hour ago

Maybe the so called net zero extremists should do more than just "finger-wagging".