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I've noticed a general sentiment that printing on Linux is (or at least was) extremely cumbersome and difficult. Why is that?

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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

It depends on the brand I guess. Some Canon Pixma did immediately worked with my distro, like literally zero setup required. However, it refuses duplexing. It just won't do it. Not driverless and not with gutenprint, although it lists the specific model, not when setting it as the default, not when setting it per job.

Yet it works on Android no problem.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 6 hours ago

IDK, my housemates printer required literally 0 setup to work with my linux VM and I've never had an issue. When I print from windows it's a pain in the butt sometimes.

[–] Baaahb@feddit.nl 55 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

That's not been my experience.

Granted, printers suuuuuck. But I was legit surprised when both the printing and scanning functions in Linux were hands down better than windows.

[–] HowlsSophie@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

SAME. Everything prints faster and worked well from day one.

[–] eutampieri@feddit.it 11 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

Haha, nice.

[–] TheBakedPotato@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Same! I'm not at my computer at the moment so I can't check the name of the scanning app i use but yeah, works perfectly. I use a Brother printer as well which I also can't remember the model name of.

[–] papafoss@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

I only print docs and pictures. But in my opinion printing on Linux is largely better than Windows. It just works most of the time. And if there is an issue the solution is generally restarting the job.

[–] radau@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

My brother needed the driver installed in debian on Qubes but has been flawless beyond that. When I was still running arch it just worked out of the box

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm hooked on my brother with a wifi print server now. All three major OS in our house, I just make sure the printer stays updated

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Brother is amazing, only printer I've ever used that was automatically detected by every device including freebsd.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The Canon Pixma has always problematic for me with driver issues.

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting, I have no problems with a Pixma TS8350. Printing is working as shitty as it has always been on Windows. I have yet to configure the scanner to be fair.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The Canon driver needs to be installed on Fedora and has never worked out of the box without some tweaking. Canon is not really in the Linux support game.

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Ii admit it didn't work out of the box on Mint as well, but didn't take more then 10 minutes of tweaking. But yes, I would not call it "Linux-friendly".

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 hours ago

Recently ran into an issue with Endeavour OS where the built in printer program would give errors when trying to add my network ecotank printer.

Tried using cups terminal and it worked the first time, and is still working weeks later.

So some of the GUI printer apps that distros ship with have issues apparently, but I don't know the extent of it.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

For basic document printing it's been great but for doing fancy print jobs it's tough on any os depending on the printer and support. My wife makes stickers and notebooks and got a fancy Epson printer and going windows Mac and Linux it was a pain. She finally got it down on her windows machine.

Even the documentation was terrible. It told her for duplex prints she would have to manually move the paper but once she figured it out it was all automatic. Youtube guides were even worse since they said it wasn't even possible on that model

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

My Xerox works way better than on osx.

[–] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 36 points 10 hours ago

Is printing cumbersome and difficult on Linux? Yes, it can be. Is it better than Windows? Also yes.

[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Any problem I've ever had printing is almost exclusively a problem with the printer, it's usually yellow or cyan. Doesn't matter the document is black&white.

[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 hours ago

Printing has basically everywhere been annoying. You need(-ed) specific drivers or even apps to make it work and if you have that set up it still can be annoying. And because most of these drivers/apps don’t support Linux printing relied on reverse engineered drivers. Then CUPS came around which made things better. And when apple adopted CUPS for Mac suddenly everyone wanted to support.

If you are really interested check out this episode of destination Linux where it’s discussed in detail.

[–] gomp@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 hours ago

It used to back in the day, especially if you tried using shitty windows usb inkjets.

Nowadays basically all printers are network printers (they are, aren't they?) plus we have cups which is the same thing macos uses (so manufacturers actually care).

[–] Apalacrypto@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I’m not sure on this one, but it may depend on the printer. Printing on Linux for me has been the easiest process ever. Windows fights me at every corner, but Linux sees my network printers and they just work out of the box. (I’ve only used Brother printers for the last 20 years)

[–] Oisteink@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Printing is a bitch no matter the platform and its usually the producers of the printers that fail. Everyone wants to make their own standard or interpret any standard in their own way. Duplex settings? Sometimes easy to find, and sometimes called something else and put in a weird spot of the interface.

Basic printing to usb is fine on Linux. My pi zero hooked to a brother laser has been providing wifi printing for me for the last 5 years. Installed cups and connected the usb and it was rocking

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah printing is very hit or miss regardless of platform.

[–] 68silver@beehaw.org 7 points 10 hours ago

This has been my experience also. My Brother printer/scanner works great with linux.

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

I had a Samsung colour laser printer, they provided driver for linux, I installed them, everything works, full support for settings etc

[–] mumei@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I have a HP printer and printing is never a smooth process. No idea why, but it takes me 5/10 minutes each time

[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

From my experience I've had to deal with their ~~software~~ adware for which I've had to close pop ups and upsell ads before I could do anything with their printers, so that might be why it takes long to print a simple page

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago

What if they printed 1 ad for 1 page........

~Shutup me stop giving them ideas~

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 5 points 6 hours ago

It was terrible in the 90's. Since CUPS became standard around 2000 it's significantly easier.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

apt purge cups-* libcups* libppd*

Thank me later.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] halm@leminal.space 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, this news cycle may not be the best for CUPS advocacy 😄

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 5 hours ago

It's definitely not helping haha

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Just uninstall cups-browsed, how are you going to print w/o CUPS?

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 3 hours ago

You can't print anymore. Try to use a plotter.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 7 hours ago

That's not my experience. Bought a new Brother MFC the other day. Hooked it up to the Wifi. All Linux machines in the house can automatically print and scan without any additional setup needed.

[–] fl42v@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

It depends... 3d printing works fine :D

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

It’s fine now, but getting CUPS installed, configured, and getting proper drivers for your printer used to be incredibly difficult, especially if you were new to Linux and didn’t know how to do any of that stuff.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago
[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

As long as your printer is supported, it's not difficult. The problem is that if you need advanced options, like artists need usually, the options aren't there.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

You're printin experience within Linix is going to entirely depend on which printer you have. Some work out of the box immediately others take hours to get working and digging through forums looking for drivers.

[–] Codandchips@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

My migration to Linux Mint coincided with getting a Brother Laser printer (DCP-L3520CDW) and I've had zero issues with text, photos or scanning. I just fired up the Brother and Mint said "oh, you've got a printer, wanna use it?"

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

when you buy a printer, just look that it says it's for linux, just like you would for windows or osx. people just sometimes run into problems when they retrofit printers for other OSes to work with linux. there's a good chance a windows printer can work with linux, but it's not guaranteed, so do it only, if you got one for free or it originally had been bought for another PC.

[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

I have a Postscript 3 compatible ipp network color laser printer for about 15 years now and it works without any issues with Linux, way better then it does from Windows. So I never understood way they say that printing is cumbersome with Linux.