The US president, Joe Biden, said he was aware of Israel’s plans to launch an operation into Lebanon as he urged against such a move. “I’m more aware than you might know and I’m comfortable with them stopping,” he told reporters at the White House. “We should have a ceasefire now.”

Thank you Biden, just wag your finger and keep feeling "comfortable with them stopping", that is ought to give you some moral victory points which is all that matters (and not thousands of civilians being killed by Israel that's funded by US).

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

the worst part is that Biden saying that is like the most you'll ever hear any american politician say. Thats "Radical" to them. "Hey maybe don't invade lebanon" "omg are you an antisemite?"

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 44 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (14 children)

This will lead to WW3. Plus the blow back will be endless. You can't murder tens of thousands of people, and displace and starve millions with out creating terrorists.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 38 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

They think that hezbollah and hamas and all the attacks on Israel by both are 100% unprovoked and brought on by some inbred hatred for jews. Hell, I was accused of being a bigot simply for being Lebanese and it was somehow taught to me as a child that I must hate Israel because of where I was born.

Nothing could be farther than the truth. I hate Israel and zionism the same way I fucking hate the nazis. It is because of what they believe, what they did, and what they are doing now, and what they plan on doing.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

And whatever blindfolded bigotry is in these areas they are justifying with their actions. Do they think someone who just had their lives, friends and family blown up or stolen by Israel is going to think rationally? I'd tell you what I'd do in the Palestinians shoes but it'll probably get me on a FBI watch list.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Look up 'Hasbara program' on your preferred search engine (duckduckgo or startpage. Degoogle your life!) And you will see that they train and pay people to go online and just spread this shit on various allegedly middle east communities until it is nothing but zionist hellscapes.

On reddit the Lebanon and Syria subreddits are havens for zionist propagandists trying to get Lebanese to think that everything is their fault or hezbollah's fault, and in the Syrian subreddit they claim that all Lebanese in Syria are troublemakers and drug dealers and thieves who want to wreck Syrian society.

No joke. It is that fucked. I could write more but I don't got the time or energy now.

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[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 39 points 18 hours ago

Israel is being run by a bunch of racist antisemitic ghouls

[+] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com -12 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

This was always going to happen after the pagers exploded. Netanyahu is finalizing his legacy before he loses the next election. He’s taking out all of Israel’s enemies’ ability to wage war.

Netanyahu is ensuring October 10 doesn’t happen again in the foreseeable future and also expanding land grabs at a rapid pace. He doesn’t give a single fuck about civilian death tolls to achieve his goals.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 62 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

...and this ensures it will happen again. with greater magnitude. the machine needs more meat.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 22 points 18 hours ago

This is pleasing to the USA because the machine needs more money too.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 47 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

The recent military attacks on the people of Lebanon have increased Netanyahu's popularity. When people talk about Netanyahu being unpopular, they often forget that this is because his government isn't sufficiently meeting demands for blood and retribution and making the Israeli Ubermenschen feel like they are perfectly safe and dominant at all times. Attacks on Lebanon checks all 3 boxes, at least in their minds.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I did not realize that Netanyahu was gaining in popularity, but it’s true

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 23 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Countries typically have the highest approval ratings when waging war.

George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush had the highest approval ratings among US presidents at 89% and 90% respectively when the US was invading Iraq and Afghanistan (source), so this is to be expected.

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 27 points 15 hours ago

Do you know what blow back is? You don't just kill tens of thousands of innocent people, and displace/starve millions of people without creating more terrorists. Isreal told us what Hamas and Hezbollah wanted in negotiations. Stop the occupation, embargo, and settlements in Gaza and the west bank and return all land stolen in those areas. Isreal said no. Does that sound responsible for Isreal? No because they don't want peace. They want the land and will kill everyone currently living on it. Top officials in the Israeli government has publicly said that's what they want, but we're still having this fucking discussion?! Nah fam, this is full on genicide. Do you honestly think the middle east will be more peaceful if Israel gets everything they want? Buckle up buckaroo, next stop WW3.

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[–] Arelin@lemmy.zip 121 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

"Is Lebanon part of Israel's promised territory?" — Jerusalem Post, 5 days ago

They've removed it since. Too mask-off to release in english I guess.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 hours ago

War and Conquest: The concept of milchemet mitzvah (a commanded war) includes conquering certain territories that were promised in the Torah. If new land is identified as part of the biblical borders, there may be halachic discussions about the obligation to conquer and settle it.

As we all know, religious texts are static and unchanging. Until one is "unearthed" that declares all of India "ancient Israel".

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 16 points 10 hours ago

They believed this from day 1 I might add.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 31 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Wow this is batshit.

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[–] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 30 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

"promised territory" hmm where have I heard that before...

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 91 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

What the fuck you doing, Israel?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 32 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

Whatever the fuck they want. Both American parties are pro-genocide, and their voters are either too stupid or too scared to demand otherwise. Its relevant because Israel could be doing absolutely none of this without US backing. US voters had (and somewhat still have) an opportunity to demand from their candidates but as I said, either too stupid or too scared to demand it.

Now Israel has carte blanc.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Things I agree with:

fuck Israel

Things I disagree with:

Israel has amassed such an arsenal, it can continue this shit on it's own for a good while. An arms embargo would still be appropriate though
Voters are demanding a cease fire and have been for a long time. No one is scared. A lot of people have enough national problems to worry about, that they put first
it's carte blanche, carte is feminine

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 29 points 18 hours ago

Genocide, same thing they've been doing with infinite help from the US

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 80 points 18 hours ago (9 children)

These kinda of things are why the US supports Israel. It helps destabilize the neighbors that don't fall in line with US interests. The US fears a sovereign Middle East where they get to choose what to do with their own countries and resources, not just for the usual Imperialist reasons, but because of the importance of the petrodollar system.

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[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 32 points 19 hours ago

exactly what the us allows them to do. I can only guess that kind old uncle sam has been feeding its billions in war change to israel for reasons more compelling than mere genocide (but that would suffice for some). a middle east ground "incursion" may be it.

because nothing could possibly go wrong with this. nothing at all.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 52 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So it's actually happening...

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 22 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I am so so so expecting a nuclear exchange in or around the middle east witin 12 months - possibly after a "dirty nuke" attempt somewhere.

I am clutching at straws to even excuse this out of my top 3 worst case black swans.

only positive news is that nuclear winter will sure fix up that global warming thing real good.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 32 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

There won't be an exchange; only Israel has nukes; it'll just be genocide in a different location

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

I think the concern is that some group will launch a dirty bomb at Israel, Israel will retaliate with nukes, and then the best case scenario is 'only' thousands dying. Oh, and did I mention that a dirty bomb can make a pretty large area uninhabitable for decades?

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[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 49 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

99% of genocidal fascist settler states give up right before winning a 4 front war, FACT

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